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US Coffee C Futures - Jul 24 (KCN4)

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US Coffee C Futures Discussions

I see people talking about Lumber and Coffee. They are not the same markets, They have different structures. Lumber is elastic relative  to Coffee. Coffee is not  a large price of a cup of coffee. Lumber is a large cost of a house. New builds have stalled because of the cost of lumber and hence demand collapsed in the Lumber market. Coffee has gone up but your cup of coffee by and large has not. The fuel to drive you to the shops has gone up more.
Anyone can click Lumber monthly chart and enjoy it.
 or trade it, it was such a buzz :)
lumber is not compared to coffee, as it is a side-to-side commodity with less than one percent of coffee and any amount that influences its movements.
Some people on this site have no idea of the damages coffee trees undergo when weather conditions become adverse. One year of damage requires four years to recover fully.
 Nice confluence at 160 tbh
yes, obviously short lived crazy spikes are possible but COT give best help to know what to do
 I agree, until higher prices are the new normal.Inflation is rampant, I have some commodities on my radar...all long positions, execpt lumber. I don't trade based on weather forecast, it's all in the chart and market movers have access to the best info.  We talked earlier, as long as 173 hold, there's a bullish case. Why is it holding here, and didn't keep dropping you reckon? genuine question
Again: It is said that low temperatures compromise the flowers, according to the physiology of the coffee trees, further reducing the production potential, INVISIBLE.
MGon coffee plants are very complex, in winter if there is too much rain the flowers give way to new leaves. They also need a little stress at the right time, as the elders say "it's to ripen the branches".
 Yes, does planting for consumption, many variables, and how is the development of galls/branches for 2022?
Good Morning. The branches are smaller than in years of good rain. There were many comments here that it is raining and the coffee will have production, not quite, it can help to maintain but the damage caused by drought is not regenerated. It's a widespread problem as it was before the lack of rain during flowering, and that's where curiosity strikes me: how do you make the estimates? Do they do it based on the condition of the crops or relying on past crops?
Look at sugar how shorts become the raw material of parabolic up shoot
As nobody revealed himself as a bear and identified his 2022 downside target, the correct assumption probably would be: 1) my question was highly inappropriate; 2) we're all bulls here, just some bulls are hidden.  :)
I'm a cameleon, I change color very quickly.
More shots needed to go upside
We need ppl like ShotDude for a parabolic upside...
please tell me if world go back to restrictionsp why you are not everybody on gold for long?
Gold bugs are in a next room. :)
no need for gold in a modern world lol
 it is so unpractical
possibility is there if you short in bad timing here you can become lumber....
expecting 188
 i am talking about for this week
 , since you are such an expert, why don't you just short the market and let your position do the talking. Then you an others don't need to spew worthless dribble.
 Me. But not next month. :)
Clearly there is no coffee! ;)
world is full of coffee but it looks like back to restrictions so i guess who will drink it lol
It is necessary to make the global balance.
Share your expectations! :)
We may see parabolic move today...
 Spread is a very professional instrument and tricky thing :). It can devastate the account the same way as outright futures. One morning may see your bull part collapsing and bear part surging. :)
 Getting close to a possible break out of the box and 1h channel.
Express yourself :)!
A Question to the real bears: what target do you see until the end of 2022 ?
When price do not go up when it should, at some point it can explode with short covering...a possibility
or collaps the other way...anyway explosion!!!
This way it's easy to be a psychic :)
Agreed! It could go up OR it could go down.
Very impressive how intentionallly coffee price is pressed. Let's see...
Amazing to see how bearish coffee is despite all...
Technically not pretty. Conflict between Fundamentals (+15 cts / lb after frost) and Technical Analysis (daily bar 07/30)
it should have gone up already...BUT we still time left until close today.
Correction into 140 area (and even below) within few months would be nothing special, chart wise.
any chance for 200? in next weeks??
More chances back to 100 lol
Excited to watch if coffee follows sugar today.
BRL opened -0,89%
 When market don't want to go as you expect its always manipulated! Silly
So you say it.
 Soybeans.
Central Bank of Brazil raises base interest rate to 5.25% / y. Real can appreciate
Sugar goes up. Coffee may follow?
Usually valued BRL, reduced exports.
BUT....Brazil coffee farms may not have coffee on hand to sell in futures market due to frost. haha
FND at 23th of September. Bulls brace yourself for bonus of 3USD to swallow.
Delta lumber=coffee probably close above 178...bcz it is variant...
lumber down 8%
whats RELATION with coffee
The belief in strong correlation between lumber and coffee is ... really scary, at least monthly chart wise: :) 1) lumber broke out of its long time trading range; 2) made 3 new ATH; 3) the ATH of all ATHs was roughly 3 times higher than upper border of its trading range (1969 - current). Thus, if to belief in a such correlation, coffee has incredible bullish perspective. :)  :)  :)
 The coffee market is fairly inelastic, people will keep consuming their coffee no matter what for now. The cost of the staff, transportation, currency fluctuations are far more significant to a cup of coffee than the base price of the material where as for a house its significant. House prices and new builds have stalled as the cost of lumber became to high and labour costs shot up. Coffee market has a different structure
so far, frost = +15 cts / lb compared to days prior to 20 July.
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