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John Hanzlik
John Hanzlik 3 hours ago
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Looking for honest advice...I am new to options trading. Here is my purpose I purchased farmland and should yield 5,000 bu of beans in Oct. To me it makes sense to watch Nov futures and if it gets up to an attractive price I should buy 1 put option. Then if the price tanks and I lose on my crop in the field I will still gain from my put option. Otherwise if beans shoot up and I get a higher price for my crop I lose my premium, but I make money on my grain. I understand I need to factor in basis price and premium cost to dial in my gain. Otherwise is it that easy to build a strategy to protect my crop if prices drop, but not cap myself if prices were to shoot up? I know on message boards there are a lot of brilliant folks and some that like to play games..hoping a brilliant mind will confirm or give me some insight...thanks
Steves View
Steves View 5 hours ago
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That's how it should go if short.. to first line, back up down to second.. 1063.10 has to hold for non short
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden 4 hours ago
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If I'm correct to add to this, and please tell me if I'm incorrect because it's your charts, but the horizontal levels are based on old tops becoming future bottoming levels(resistance turns to supports) and vice verse for old bottoms to future tops. And the exact level being preferably the opening price on the the bottoming/topping bar to use as actual pivot. And sometimes using the opening price, yes? That's how I use them anyway. USD works off that literally to the tick...Soybeans seems a little more finicky. I'm curious as to how you determined the angle of your trendline, the top one projecting down as it's not actually resting on any of the ensuing price bar tops. Also, do you have a preferred TF for Beans on this method as opposed to other markets?
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden 5 hours ago
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heh...does 1066 hold...or do we see 1061....decisions to be made..
Steves View
Steves View 5 hours ago
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Any time Brent.. Just click my name. profile has addy.
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Steves View 7 hours ago
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In response to no one helps.. I have to beg differ. I mapped out trade, Even did a play by play call this morning.. Even told you where to get out with stop loss. so your , or i'm confused.
Glenn Dutton
Glenn Dutton 6 hours ago
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lol.
Glenn Dutton
Glenn Dutton 6 hours ago
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lol.
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky 4 hours ago
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Yeah I agree. Puneet is out in left field here...
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky 4 hours ago
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I'd say the soybean forum has been the best discussion of all the commodities. Have you checked out lean hogs lately lol
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden 7 hours ago
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To me...quick glance...gonna spend night working on Beans, but time frame today was 7 squared(49th day) from previous main top. March contract double/triple topped at 1074/75. On continuous contract 1071 is 50% of main upper price range, strongest division...also heavy HEAVY volume today with the greatest amount showing on the top hourly candle followed by downs...closed well below resistance after testing them...itching to go short 1072/73 if we see it. Steve, reach through my monitor and slap me....oh yeh, that 5hr chart, the last candle...Isn't that a reversal bar?
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Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden 6 hours ago
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Whats that mean for beanie weenies?
Glenn Dutton
Glenn Dutton 6 hours ago
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lol
Glenn Dutton
Glenn Dutton 6 hours ago
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lol
Glenn Dutton
Glenn Dutton 6 hours ago
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lol
Gold Mark
Gold Mark 4 hours ago
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Love the Gann analysis. Thanks. I've been drooling over a short for a few days. I may miss it though. I'd like to see soy go down (even as low as 1055 and then go back up to 1068+ and then short. But with that sort of strategy I'll probably miss the best trade.
Steves View
Steves View 9 hours ago
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I'm sorry James.. had business to tend too. But in answer to question.. you look for High % of two lines. I'm more 45/65 on williams.. from above, hits 45 close sell. above 65 close buy. They are small windows. . Price action is best because it can go to 1075 like today, However, close was 67.. So with two closes above 60, Great chance to close in 70 in future, After pullback.. But I think you get Ideal. Don;t count on One thing. Candle sticking is Best . trade venue. plus trend lines, pivots. Those 3 are my bible.. .
Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran 6 hours ago
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Steve what's the best way to learn about theses three things...been trading for a little while so know the basics but I would like to read more and have more confident/ consistent trades. Thanks for all your info on here, it's really appreciated
Puneet Mantri
Puneet Mantri 13 hours ago
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no one helps in this forum unlike dax and eurusd
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden 7 hours ago
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no offense man, but trading is an individual sport. I mean no disrespect but you're wanting help from people you don't even know...help yourself and read some books and chart, maybe?
Puneet Mantri
Puneet Mantri 13 hours ago
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any resistance or support? top expected today?.
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky 14 hours ago
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Ok Steve I think I get it. Is the Williams indicator lines at -20 and -80? So now we would want to see a daily close in that range on the Williams indicator to suggest prices will move lower right? Is price close also significant for example if it closes near the day's highs or lows? As it pertains to the indicators strength I mean.
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky 14 hours ago
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The Williams indicator on the nov 28 high did not generate a sell signal but the one on dec 7 did...the candle pattern on dec 7 was also suggesting a near term top too would you say?
Climate East
Climate East 12 hours ago
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Lots of times indicators like that do not work on commodities
Steves View
Steves View 16 hours ago
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Funny how reports match up with charts,. Every single time.
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Steves View 16 hours ago
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Reports were wrong. . Or so they say. We, World has less the expected.
Onoshobishobi Ingelosi
Onoshobishobi Ingelosi 16 hours ago
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This is really crazy. Really crazy. I'm not sure what is driving this up. USDA report was not this bullish. Who knows? I wish I could get out of the way but that doesn't seem to be an available option anymore. Are technical indicators just off the table at the moment?.
Terp Terp
Terp 15 hours ago
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South America produces a sizeable crop. Apparently things are bad there. I never liked indicators in beans
Steves View
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Don't get greedy . Move to 1072/stop loss
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Steves View 17 hours ago
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OMI.. I'de put stop loss at 1062 Exit any where above 1070.
Steves View
Steves View 18 hours ago
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Omi.. When using lagging indicator, Look to higher (TF) . Day up. You want a (close) In small window. Here's price action . plus close in window. Always expect pullback. * That's what get's traders in trouble* .. This is great example.
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky 14 hours ago
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Ok I see what you mean. and at what levels are the lines for the windows currently at in the indicator and price chart? Do those stay static or are they where old support resistance levels are or? So to indicate lower prices ahead now we are waiting for soys to close inside both the price window and the Williams window? Or just the Williams?
Puneet Mantri
Puneet Mantri Jan 17, 2017 4:06AM GMT
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Guyz any chances of reversal now or today
Steves View
Steves View Jan 14, 2017 3:19AM GMT
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This is how it should go.. bounce, break out. Key will be 5 day ma.. williams. . break of top, and should see 1090
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky Jan 17, 2017 7:47AM GMT
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Hey Steve can you briefly explain how you use the Williams indicator? Are you looking for divergence with price?
Puneet Mantri
Puneet Mantri Jan 13, 2017 5:51PM GMT
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Expected top?
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Steves View Jan 13, 2017 5:08PM GMT
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Lol.. That bar at 1064.88 area. Is an inside bar.. what that means is we will double top wick. retrace short term and run up.. (DAY TF)
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Steves View Jan 13, 2017 4:26PM GMT
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lol.. Watch 1090 's area
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden Jan 13, 2017 2:19PM GMT
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I could be way off...but that thing looks like it's going down...I meant to say March, not February with that measurement, my bad dude was exhausted yesterday but wanted to respond to your comment. if this doesnt take 1042 today look out below, forreal...that's just per my cycle theory and the fact it gap'd down at open and hasn't even filled gap...man look for that gap to not even fill, if that gap holds as resistance, big deal...anyways, my primary resistance today for March is 1042, 5 points above that, then never mind.
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Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran Jan 13, 2017 3:57PM GMT
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@Francisco D Anconia -isn't this the right shoulder as well? Should be dropping like it's hot right?
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden Jan 13, 2017 4:06PM GMT
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well you could also say there was a major double bottom on low volume/accumulation followed by a big breakout. immediate price action trumping this "cycle theory" there's a lot of bullishness to this...a lot
Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran Jan 13, 2017 4:07PM GMT
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@Francisco D Anconia -you close your short already?
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden Jan 13, 2017 4:14PM GMT
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yep. 1045.25 was the 45 degree angle from second top..took that...pshhh next thing is 1048, and I'm not holding into 1050 to see if 48 holds.
Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran Jan 13, 2017 4:40PM GMT
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@Francisco D Anconia -good call on not holding....week started off strong and but have been killed last few days
Ed Zak
Ed Zak Jan 13, 2017 12:43PM GMT
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Looking for a bullish report ..to push beans to the 1050 ,1064 range next week
Terp Terp
Terp Jan 13, 2017 3:18PM GMT
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Report was bullish but 420mil carry out is up there. I want to say it's in the top 10 highest carry out. Just forewarning, soybeans usually make a historical bottom first couple weeks of feb.
Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran Jan 12, 2017 8:44PM GMT
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Halfway recovered from one bad position (Gold). Into another terrible situation here ....what's the odds of this reversing back down in the near future. I need to change my trading strategy asap.
Francisco D Anconia
HankRearden Jan 13, 2017 12:25AM GMT
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https://invst.ly/326rq That's how January 12th looked on the inverse cycle. BIG down day to make a bottom....this was big up day....does it make a top? idk bro, I wont speculate it. I'm elsewhere shorting Gold/buying Dollar but 1042 is the 45 degree angle on the February contract...if that is taken by more than 4-5 points I don't know how much faith I'd have in that. there's a strong bottoming form to this as well. big up today isn't surprising...it actually fits the pattern, if that's what you were referring by thinking down trend was suppose to start...I don't want you to sway you in anyway, just felt I needed to show the setup I was speaking on in case that was the reference. Hope you can work it out.
James Sawatzky
James Sawatzky Jan 13, 2017 1:35AM GMT
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Brent - Where are you short from and in which futures month?
Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran Jan 13, 2017 2:52AM GMT
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@James Sawatzky -avg. 1034 ...March 17. Made almost half back at open and closed half of shorts....looks like I should of closed all and been close to even
Brent McClaran
Brent McClaran Jan 13, 2017 2:58AM GMT
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@Francisco D Anconia -thanks for the info!! My phone won't let me click on anything to view charts or profiles....I started going short @ 1029 thinking the small amount of positive news wouldn't make it keep running....guess I was wrong again
Gold Mark
Gold Mark Jan 13, 2017 6:16AM GMT
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I only had a little success with Soy because it's all over the place lately. Could easily see Soy go down some on Friday and then up next week to take out November stops at 1061. I just don't see a trend change yet ... but I'm no expert.
Puneet Mantri
Puneet Mantri Jan 12, 2017 7:15PM GMT
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how come here its moving and my account shows market closed?
 
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