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157.90 +0.07    +0.04%
16:01:37 - Closed. Currency in EUR ( Disclaimer )
Type: Financial Future
Month: Jun 18
  • Prev. Close: 157.90
  • Open: 157.88
  • Day's Range: 157.43 - 158.04
Euro Bund 157.90 +0.07 +0.04%

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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Apr 16, 2018 8:03AM ET
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Bearish outlook for Bunds this year, shorting  anything above 159 now as Bunds are overpriced compared to T-notes.  I might be totally wrong but this morning my account is increasing.
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War Games
War Games Apr 16, 2018 8:03AM ET
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Its maddening isnt it.. Shorting this thing is just impossible
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Apr 16, 2018 8:03AM ET
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weak macro data, would be carefull with shorts atm
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Ignacio HG
Ignacio HG Apr 16, 2018 8:03AM ET
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On fundamental basis, shorting Bund is not the correct way/instrument to bet on rising German 10 Y yield in the medium/long run. Bund highs was on 24th June 2016 (Brexit) at above 168 points (by taht time 10 Y Yield was -0.28%). Today, we have got Bund quoting at above 159 points; but if you take into account the roll over effect since June 2016, we are not so distant from the 168 point that I mentioned before while we have got 10 Y German Yield at aprox 0.5%
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War Games
War Games Apr 16, 2018 8:03AM ET
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Thats a very good point, a lot of the downside in the bund futures was untradeable, especially after brexit where the front month did sell off much, but the month after was waaay lower. The Bund says "But I am a bond!! But I do not yield"
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War Games
War Games Apr 16, 2018 8:03AM ET
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Ahhh an actual down day!! Very very well done Roelant. Hope you caught the whole move!!
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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Apr 11, 2018 6:53AM ET
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Looking like a bull flag that started 28 March. Rectangle that slopes down a little. This will go up if stock indexes drop. But at same later stage Debt will drop as well because it is overpriced and inflation is higher in reality. Staying out of shorts for a while.
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Fernando Albir
Fernando Albir Apr 10, 2018 1:41PM ET
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La realidad de los mercados de Bonos es que pese a que estamos oyendo que los tipos van a subir, seguro -no me cabe duda-, pero cuando? Porque el Bund por ejemplo está en la realidad de los mercados de Bonos, ¿por qué estamos aquí oyendo que los tipos van a subir, seguro -no me cabe duda-, pero cuando? Porque el BUND por ejemplo está contando con los ROLOS de cada VENCIMIENTO en que estamos a 1,5 FIGURAS DEL MÁXIMO HISTORICO QUE FUE 168,19 .... . Obviamente que hay mas recorrido hacia abajo que hacia arriba, salvo hundimiento de la RENTA VARIABLE USA A LA QUE SEGUIRIAN EL RESTO DE BOLSAS.o los ROLOS de cada VENCIMIENTO es que estamos a 1,5 FIGURAS DEL MAXIMO HISTORICO QUE FUE 168,19 ..... Obviamente que hay mas recorrido hacia abajo que hacia arriba, salvo hundimiento de la RENTA VARIABLE USA A LA QUE SEGUIRIAN EL RESTO DE BOLSAS .......
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Apr 04, 2018 6:49AM ET
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Well, might get the meltdown in equities after all, that would be marvelous for bears later, staying flat until that risk deminishes or happened.
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War Games
War Games Mar 19, 2018 6:00AM ET
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"I am a bond. But I do not yield"
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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Mar 15, 2018 3:29AM ET
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Restarted short because FED is into Quantitative Tightening and ECB and BOJ will have to follow at some stage away from QE even if they do not like it. US still trend setter.
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Mar 01, 2018 4:42AM ET
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another chance nearing, 160 would be nice, waiting for contract renewal
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Mar 01, 2018 4:42AM ET
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started shorting @ 160
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Edwin van Tatenhove
Taat Mar 01, 2018 4:42AM ET
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Whats your targit?
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Mar 01, 2018 4:42AM ET
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Got several: TP1: 157.30 TP2: 155 TP3 148.30
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Mar 01, 2018 4:42AM ET
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risk here is a meltdown of equities and a run to "safety" so I'll bail if needed
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Edwin van Tatenhove
Taat Mar 01, 2018 4:42AM ET
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No "safety" run on "Trump Crash". Started shorting @160
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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Jan 24, 2018 1:21PM ET
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Government debt is replacing money now. Negative real interest rates. Inflation is higher than publicized. Interest rate policy is dicatting the world. Pure tiranny.
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Jan 24, 2018 11:28AM ET
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still, below 160.30 would warn me for a 160 break coming
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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Jan 19, 2018 2:56AM ET
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Interesting if we drop through horizontal strong support of 160. Friday getting ready to smash on Monday? Double short position for medium term.
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War Games
War Games Jan 19, 2018 2:56AM ET
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Be careful on the old double short... Short bonds trades are called widowmakers for a reason haha
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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Jan 19, 2018 2:56AM ET
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War GamesWell spotted. It's been like that for how many years? Whole social housing corporations in Netherlands blown up by interest derivatives trading. Not many bond bears alive I would think.
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War Games
War Games Jan 18, 2018 7:05AM ET
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Think we can try and sell a little here with a pretty tight stop, selling flows are on US 10 yrs last night and this morning
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War Games
War Games Jan 18, 2018 7:05AM ET
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Sooo... Trendline is in jeprody right now, lets see if they can cool their jets before the close, will probably be looking to bail out of this short tomorrow unless there is a prompt reversal and close below 160.50. I honestly do not have any idea who is buying these things right now, but somebody is.
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War Games Jan 18, 2018 7:05AM ET
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War Games Jan 18, 2018 7:05AM ET
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Stopped out, what a waste
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War Games
War Games Jan 18, 2018 7:05AM ET
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So, there you all have it, took a trade, got stopped on the high, and watched it come back down to my entry point. Shows my intelligence doesn't it
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Georgios Sofianos
Georgios Sofianos Jan 18, 2018 7:05AM ET
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War GamesMr Draghi
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Ignacio HG
Ignacio HG Jan 16, 2018 3:23AM ET
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Does any body know why yesterday's 10Y german yield increase (from 0.52% to 0.58%) meant no movement (drop in this case) in the bund derivative?. . Thank you in advance for your help
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War Games
War Games Jan 04, 2018 12:07PM ET
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Doesnt look like this can continue lower, I covered shorts today. Have another look around 162.40
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Kjeld Poulsen
Kjeld Poulsen Dec 21, 2017 4:38AM ET
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Finally. Waiting for year/month now it is time to prepare shorting Bunds. During this week I have seen at least 3 big shortsignals and only a weekly close above 162,75 will cancel my opinion.
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Roelant Martinus
Roelant Martinus Nov 22, 2017 8:17AM ET
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Oh that's it, 50% retracement from thids morning's dip. Restart short position.
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Nov 15, 2017 6:27AM ET
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still hard times for bears, at 162,90 I woulkd say "dead cat bounce" but better keep my mouth shut.....
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Oct 30, 2017 11:46AM ET
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Short this now.
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Oct 26, 2017 2:04AM ET
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Long this right now, moonshot asap!
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Jonathan Szalavecz
Jonathan Szalavecz Oct 26, 2017 2:04AM ET
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Jeffery, you mean to go short or long? Don t understand
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Sep 10, 2017 6:19PM ET
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My god this is gonna go down atleast -1,5 % today. Remember this date. The german bund was last weekly candle for sure the highest of whole 2017, same with american T-note  10y and 30y. Best time to short is now bros.
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Sep 07, 2017 10:33AM ET
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Luckely I'm not short this market, however, jesus christ this is a big beast! Nice bull today!
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Marc Toma
Marc Toma Aug 28, 2017 10:49AM ET
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This is not a free market anymore. This is also not insanity. This is well planned and executed with evil precision. A whole generation left with no rent. A period of hyper inflation just around the corner about to drag Europe down for good. This is world war three in the making. Just so we get right to the point : Do NOT expect this to end soon. More precisely : Those who bought equities a long time ago, those are selling now to the sheep, and to the pension funds, for that matter. As soon as distribution is over, commodities will skyrocket. And finally, when the last short in the BUND is ********ed dry, then, and only then, will this thing go into free fall.  But I guess, at that point in time, it will not matter anymore. Happy trading ...
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Aug 24, 2017 5:26AM ET
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I'd like Donald Trump out of office he's a too big risk for BUND bears....
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Aug 24, 2017 5:26AM ET
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Are you being funny and implying I am blaming the market for my trade that turned into a loss? I know my last comments has a lot of stupid in them, but still, there are some substance and not just angry rants about what I said. I am far away from being a profitable trader, and basically I'm a clown, and I'm not claiming anything else. However, there are very susceptible movements lifted by the same banks who issue knockout-warrants.  If you don't believe me then you should take a little visit to some investigations published by different world-wide market-surveillance-agencies, and read judgements from courts against big banks in context of market manipulation. etc etc   :)    but whatever, humor is fun right? ^^
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Aug 24, 2017 5:26AM ET
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jeffery mcridge , no no fun intendet, 100% serious, most fundamentals for a gradual increase of rates in place but DT has alone in the last 3 weeks at least 4 potential major catastrophes on the making ,if *he walks the talk*, and believe me that havens could trigger a dramatic fly to the moon and beyond that we haven’t seen since Lehman if any of those goes wrong.. A flight to safety would certainly push demand for treasuries and bunds.
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Aug 22, 2017 6:21AM ET
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Short at 164,4. If dax goes up and beyond 12200, the bund will probably see 160. However, the more dax shows itself range with uncertainty and weakness, I see the bund rally.....
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Zsolt Varga
Zsolt Varga Aug 22, 2017 6:21AM ET
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jeffery mcridge I'm in short with 164,9 SL
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Aug 22, 2017 6:21AM ET
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Zsolt Varga Nice, where did you enter? Just look at the daily chart, this HAS to come down.. Epic squeeze is epic, and I got wipe'd from it. However, it might just continue further upwards another day as maximum, but then plunge time (in my opinion). . . By the way: . Do you buy knockout-warrants with the german bund as underlying, or are you trading with cfds?
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Zsolt Varga
Zsolt Varga Aug 22, 2017 6:21AM ET
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jeffery mcridge Hi I'am in short from 164,5 so no too good entry, but my SL was good till now 164,9 (it was pretty hot yesterday). I use knockout-warrant, but the cfd would be better. Look at this chart, I think this was a hard resistance at 164,9 so i think short is better now.
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Aug 22, 2017 6:21AM ET
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Zsolt Varga Hi,   Yes, I cannot believe my eyes to see the bund so perfectly technical school-book-price movements, however, it is easy to notice a squeeze. Look at the italian bund, the euro bund BTP, it has fallen quiite "a lot", and the german bund should've followed. However.....the german bund has almost 0 short-investors, so its truly a buy and hold-paper. I can recommend the article: search on google with this:   the-german-bond-market-is-all-about-buy-and-hold + ftalphaville , since I cannot post links here in the comments.            I agree that short is better "now" than before, since it has broken up from the 2 days of ranging channels and should naturally perhaps squeeze little more to 165, but then fall..         Can you write the isin of which knockout-warrant you are using?  or write the emittent of those. Best regards
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jeffery mcridge
jeffery mcridge Aug 22, 2017 6:21AM ET
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Beautiful chart. thanks
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Aug 21, 2017 4:16PM ET
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another try short @ 164,54
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Vincent Veeger
Vincent Veeger Aug 03, 2017 8:18AM ET
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163.10 worth a short I think
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