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World’s Largest IPO Drowns The Voice Of An Oil-Bull-Turned-Bear

Published 11/22/2019, 12:44 PM
Updated 09/02/2020, 02:05 AM

When one of the most respected oil bulls ever gives you a surprisingly bearish view of the market in coming years, what do you do?

Well, traders who are long oil sent crude prices up again this week, giving little immediate regard to the wisdom of Andy Hall, the former high-riding BP (LON:BP) executive, $100-million-bonus-guy of Citigroup (NYSE:C) and billionaire manager of the now-shuttered Astenbeck oil fund.

The street cred and chops of someone like Hall may run deep in the oil market, but no crude trader is worth his salt if he doesn’t decide his own trades.

Hall Gives Oil 10 Years; Investors Are Betting On 30 Years Of Aramco

Hall’s verdict last week that oil’s demand growth will end in about 10 years or more was drowned out by noise around the initial public offering of Saudi state oil company Aramco, which investors ironically believe will continue enjoying oil market dominance for another 30 years.

Proving the disconnect sometimes between fundamentals and rising oil prices, both the U.S. West Texas Intermediate and U.K. Brent benchmarks jumped 5% over the past two days, recovering all they lost in two earlier sessions on demand worries. The rebound was short on fundamentals and long on theatrics by the Saudi-led OPEC cartel to prop the market up ahead of the IPO of Aramco, which is slated to become the world’s most valuable listed firm.

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Leaving aside the current state of the market, that an established fan of high crude prices like Hall can predict the demand destruction that’s coming for oil shows the realities of today’s disruptive forces in business finally catching up with some in the industry.

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Most, if not all, of Hall’s devotees of one time, would be shocked by his turn.

I certainly was.

How Hall Went On And On Talking Up Oil

Each month, from the Westport, Connecticut offices of Astenbeck, Hall would write 10-to-12 page long letters to investors in the fund, arguing his case against a market that often went against him since his first trading loss in 2012 after more than a decade of supercharged profits. I still remember the remark by an editor with whom I shared one of the letters. “There is only story here — a lecture on why oil prices should go higher and higher,” the editor said.

But Hall persisted in being a “perma-bull”, a tag given by detractors for his permanently bullish outlook on oil. His investors, mostly pensions and other institutions with tens of millions of dollars invested each in Astenbeck, somehow stayed as he lost money for them while insisting that $80-$100 per barrel oil will return. The reality was the market was pretty comfortable at under $40, falling even near $25 once, due to the oversupply of shale crude. By the time he retired in the summer of 2017, Astenbeck was worth less than a tenth of the $5 billion it once managed.

Re-emerging for old times’ sake last week at an energy event in New York organized by Orbital Insight, a Californian technology company that now consults him, Hall alluded to present day oil dynamics.

Now, He Talks About Electric Cars And Renewables

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By 2030, the world will see a plateauing or decline in global oil consumption because of technology and electric cars, he said. And yes, renewables would be the new fossil fuels, he said. As though answering his audience’s questions about his earlier bets, he said those were based on the logic that “oil consumption would grow from here to eternity; except we knew logically that couldn’t happen.”

Which brings us to the point of this story: The Aramco IPO and how that listed company plans to interact with the oil market of the future needs logical explaining too.

As Reuters’ commodities columnist Clyde Russel said in a post last week, the crude market’s complacency over Aramco turning into a public company seems misplaced.

Aramco has committed to paying an annual dividend of at least $75 billion for the next five years. That means it will be under some pressure to maintain its existing strong profitability. One way to achieve that will be to optimize its business of oil production, refining and shipping.

Saudi Arabia Needs To Cut; Aramco May Have To Produce More

The only problem is Saudi Arabia as a nation, needs to cut oil production if it wants to keep oil prices from tanking. As custodian of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, Riyadh has a production cutting pact with allies like Russia under the so-called OPEC+. The main reason for Thursday’s 2% price jump in crude was a Reuters report suggesting that OPEC+ cuts will continue until June. I’m willing to bet it will be for the foreseeable future, if not forever.

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Even with Aramco’s position as the lowest cost producer for a barrel, I'm not sure the Saudis can smoothly reconcile the twin objectives of cutting production to get higher prices while at the same time ensuring their listed oil company runs at max to boost its revenue.

As Russell himself posits: What if U.S. shale oil output continues growing as it has in recent years, with boom as well from other producers outside the OPEC+ agreement?

Will Aramco continue to advocate for output cuts by OPEC and its allies? Or will it be tempted to run the numbers — i.e. once again chase volume over value, given its inherent advantage of being the lowest-cost major oil producer?

OIl Is Bigger Than Aramco; Not The Other Way Round

My other surprise is the Wall Street-generated hype that the crude market has bought into — that oil prices need to go up before the Aramco listing, and should remain higher to show the success of the float.

The Saudi government’s choice of a local bourse listing — instead of New York or London — indicates the level of transparency it wishes for the soon-to-be-public company and how it intends to “manage” any fallout from the listing. Already, disappointment that Aramco’s valuation will be less than the desired $2 trillion is eating into the kingdom apparently.

What needs to be reinforced across the industry is that the oil market will always be bigger than Aramco.

Oil as a commodity will be priced primarily on supply-demand of crude, its delivery to the marketplace and related variables.

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Aramco as a listed company will be judged by its investors according to its financial performance and health of business.

The two should never be confused, whatever Wall Street’s motives.

Latest comments

Very good writing BK-ji.... I do like the portion "..... oil prices need to go up before the Aramco listing, and should remain higher to show the success of the float". Already Aramco missed the $2 trillion calculation...
Thanks much, Adeva. Truly appreciate your feedback. It's people like you who inspire me to keep at this.
Thanks Barani
You're most welcome, Mostafa.
Good article. It seems to me if he was wrong then, he might be wrong now. Just an observation. However, I am short. I never trade on someone elses recommendation so I only have myself to blame if my trade goes south. I do enjoy reading your material as well as others on this board, some for information, some for entertainment.
Thanks much, Chris. I spend a good part of my day trying to explain to people what is it really that I hope to achieve from these articles. It's really great to have someone like you who has a natural appreciation for the work that this site does. Thank you again.
Need i come back tonremind you the last ng comment you posted is fully wrong?
And how much money did you make or lose on that trade, Chill Chill? Did you get it right on your own? Or did you get it wrong because of me? Whichever proves one thing: Nobody is right all the time and no one is perpetually wrong either. The best you can hope is for a 60-40 success rate. Anyone beyond already makes you an exceptional trader/analyst. The dynamics of the market are such. Please learn some basics before you get deeper into the game. It will really help you with your angst. Humbly yours.
Another thing, dearest Chill Chill: If you trawl back and read, you'll find that 90% of the time, I'm sharing ideas and market nuances to broaden my readers' canvas. I don't call out prices often; even when I do, I'm often quoting established analysts such as John Kilduff, the founder of energy hedge fund Again Capital (one of CNBC's foremost market sources on oil) and people like Scott Shelton, ICAP's must-go-to broker on physical oil/gas trades. You can check with them. We don't make up anything on this site to mislead anyone. Everything is done with good professional intent by the content desk, I can assure you.
Good article. I have been amazed by the bullishness of oil this week. Complete madness
except me. :)
Umair eg, my God, the return of the troll! Where have you been for Pete's sake? Licking your wounds on natgas. Seem to have found time again for your favorite past-time: trolling! :)
Thats what happens when I take your advice. :). I sold the pop today and I am in cash. I made profit. I can admit my mistakes and will get back in on a break of todays high. Oh I bought the dip in oil and sold it.
the article puts a scenario that Aramco needs a high production to maintain its profitability but Saudi needs cut oil production to maintain its national income. but why Aramco cannot cut production based on higher oil prices to maintain its profitability? this article certainly contradicted itself at this front.
You are assuming that Aramco as a company will be operating tightly within the framework of OPEC policy when the realities of the marketplace may be different. Aramco will produce/contract to deliver ahead of OPEC/Saudi production cut pledges. Once the oil is pumped out, it adds to the inventory. Here's where the disconnect might be. So far, Aramco has not had an IPO and dividends to pay investors. The situation is changing. There is, of course, a caveat: With the listing at home, they have better ability to "manage" things, possibly at the expense of transparency. That's all the more the reason why the market needs to wait out this IPO and its impact on prices instead of rushing to deliver Aramco a pre-listing premium on crude.
Apparently they have a water problem as well as does Iran. That could mean a whole lot less production, like zero if it worsens.
 Yes, Andrew. But again, they're not talking about that the way they should, expecting the market to balance out any knowledge it has about the water crisis with other bullish themes built around Saudi oil future. These are the variable the market should know about. Yet, they possibly don't wish to discuss this ahead of the Aramco IPO. Doesn't bode too well for transparency, does it?
the article is poorly written, yet informative. it got worse when he puts his 2 cents in.
Thank you, but I'm not a stenographer to take notes and not put my own thoughts down. "Poorly written, yet informative," you say. That sounds a bit oxymoronic to me. You may want to see what the other readers are saying.
bro will oil go bearish in short term
The bulls seem as forceful now in keeping the focus on OPEC and Aramco. Incidentally, the IPO price will be announced on Dec 5 -- the same that the OPEC meeting will begin. How's that for coincidence? :)
2030, the world will see a plateauing or decline in global oil consumption because of technology and electric cars, he said. And yes, renewables would be the new fossil fuels, he said. As though answering his audience’s questions about his earlier bets, he said those were based on the logic that
Yes, that's most telling, Omar.
Great article. Aramco IPO seems like nothing more than a scheme to sell enough of the company now to take it private again in 10 years for a fraction of the sale.
Thanks, Kevin. Yes, I wouldn't doubt that go-public-then-private plan. To me, the biggest giveaway is that the listing is happening on the Saudi bourse rather than on the NYSE or LSE. If they really wanted transparency, they'd have stuck to either of the latter. Also, the humongous size of the IPO and proximity to the two centers that set global oil prices -- New York and London -- would make the NYSE or LSE a no-brainer. As we know, those two were dropped as the Saudis realized the difficulty in meeting the transparency bar of investors in either center. Now, back home, they can "manage" the float however they like, and the same Saudi princes who were charged for tax collusion in 2017 are probably being to forced to subscribe to the IPO.
They need new reserves.
very interesting....
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Thank you, Dhrup. I'm truly amazed by Hall's turn, having followed his oil thesis for years.
Hall sounds like another green dreamer to me. Enjoy your retirement..
Andrew, every major industry in the world has been disrupted, with Aramco surviving the threat of shale thus far. Renewables haven't really come into their own simply because of lacking political will and the oil lobby -- you can trust that Big Oil would rather that Tesla die than live another day. Yet, when renewables have their day, it wouldn't be difficult to see how quickly the tide turns.
Shale, electric cars, bio fuels, ethanol, all use more energy to produce than they yield. They all use oil to help produce and transport them as well.
 Admittedly, Andrew. But the net consumption of fossils will be lower than they are today. It's only logical, sir.
very interesting and helpful view point. Thanks.
Thank you, John.
Very good article.... Thanks BK-ji
Thank you, Adeva.
Very Interesting....
Thank you, Dev Nandan.
Indeed, for someone like Hall to say it himself.
Thanks
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