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Is This a ‘No-Recession Recession’? Experts Drop the Ball Once Again

By Investing.com (Francesco Casarella)Market OverviewJun 07, 2023 09:16AM ET
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Is This a ‘No-Recession Recession’? Experts Drop the Ball Once Again
By Investing.com (Francesco Casarella)   |  Jun 07, 2023 09:16AM ET
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  • CEO of a well-known fund recently said we're in a 'no-recession recession'
  • This is after the markets rallied, the economy remained strong
  • It seems like the 'finance gurus' were wrong, once again

I was somewhere between incredulous and amused this morning when I read from a well-known American news agency that the CEO (so not just anyone) of Apollo Global Management, a well-known private equity fund, reported that we are in a "no-recession/recession" scenario.

Bloomberg Quote
Bloomberg Quote

Source: Bloomberg

This would be a scenario (according to them) where the economy remains strong while markets suffer.

Now, here are my 2 cents:

  • The markets seem to be doing everything but suffering, so I don't really know what they were looking at
  • Either we are in a recession, or we are NOT

Am I the only one who finds certain things ridiculous?

In any case, these gentlemen in the world of finance who look down on everyone, as I have often pointed out, rarely catch us. Why? Because predicting the future is impossible.

Yesterday Morgan Stanley released their forecasts for the next 6 months of how they think the markets will do by the end of the year, with the scenario in the chart below.

MS & Co. S&P 500 Target for 2023 Year-End
MS & Co. S&P 500 Target for 2023 Year-End

Source: Isabelnet

Now, how do you predict where the markets will be 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, or 1 year from now?

It is impossible!

We can't be certain about predicting the market 15 years from now, but we know that returns tend to fall within a specific range over the long term.

Yet many investors still base their investment and life choices on these assumptions.

The Financial Times wrote an article in mid-May saying that algorithms drive the bullish market and that we should not trust them because they are buying (and thus pushing the market up) on technical and systematic grounds.

But I say: do we care?

The only thing we are reasonably certain of, and 200 years of history says so, is that owning U.S./Global equities for a sufficiently long period (at least 10-15 years) dramatically increases the likelihood of bringing home positive returns.

And we are also reasonably certain that if a stock has good underlying fundamentals and if we tend to buy when prices are at a discount, our chances of success will be greater.

Remember that Investing is, by definition, dealing with uncertainty. Our ability to succeed in the markets doesn't come from eliminating uncertainty but rather from taking actions based on our understanding of the market's nature.

These actions increase our probability of success to some extent.

What happens to the markets tomorrow or by the end of 2023?

I don’t know, but playing the historical odds is always better than listening to 'finance gurus.'

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Disclaimer: This article is written for informational purposes only; it does not constitute a solicitation, offer, advice, counseling, or investment recommendation. As such, it is not intended to incentivize the purchase of assets in any way. I would like to remind you that any asset is evaluated from multiple points of view and is highly risky. Therefore, any investment decision and the associated risk remain with the investor.

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Erikke Evans
Erikke Jun 07, 2023 11:33PM ET
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Buy and hold days are over. It's not what it used to be. Buy and hold is gambling...zero risk management. Trade short term or you will become a bag holder when Iran or Russia or some other nut jib dictator decides to drop the big one.
Bill Riley
Bill Riley Jun 07, 2023 11:11PM ET
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12-18 months lag until rate hikes hit corporate profits.
Ac Tektrader
Ac Tektrader Jun 07, 2023 7:27PM ET
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there is no recession when you have unemployment under4%...
Derick Lim
Derick Lim Jun 07, 2023 6:33PM ET
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Its AI no recession inflation recession inflation
William Bailey
William Bailey Jun 07, 2023 4:06PM ET
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Fed printing free bailout money so Wealthy can escape failing banks is not an economy … recession started already and fake job reports and earnings are bs
Ac Tektrader
Ac Tektrader Jun 07, 2023 4:06PM ET
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willy you need to look up what a recession is....maybe in your country the statistics are being manipulating but in the west organizations that do it get downgraded...
Jake Vee
Jake Vee Jun 07, 2023 4:06PM ET
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So when’s the US government getting downgraded?
Oyetunde Olayinka
Oyetunde Olayinka Jun 07, 2023 11:05AM ET
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I love this
Iscritto Iscritti
Iscritto Iscritti Jun 07, 2023 10:39AM ET
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Ciao, you are not alone, but... not everyhting is 100% unpredictable. If you'd see revenues and EPS growing, the market usually notices it.  BTW, I think lately the huge "tech" companies (Apple, Google, Amazon, Meta) are not doing so good, their revenues are stable (if you keep inflation rate into account) , so another "crisis" of these companies is more than possible.
Phil Kimmel
Phil Kimmel Jun 07, 2023 10:39AM ET
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Well said!
Brad Albright
Brad Albright Jun 07, 2023 10:30AM ET
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"Am I the only one who finds certain things ridiculous?" No, you are not alone.
 
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