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Could Gold Shoot to All Time Highs Soon - And Beyond?

Published 10/13/2023, 03:16 PM

I am not sure if much of what is written regarding markets – especially the gold market – is based upon ignorance or just intellectual dishonesty. In either case, I am absolutely sick of it.

I saw an article recently that suggests that gold is going to $5000 for the specific reason of the Fed easing on its interest rate-raising cycle. And, history proves this to be absolutely a false hope.

But, before I explain the historical perspective which eviscerates this view, I want to address a few comments that I saw in the same article.

"JPM will never let $5K oz gold trade. Every few months a trader or trading desk is found guilty of manipulating prices"

Are there cases where some big banks were caught "manipulating" prices? Of course, there are. But, one must actually read those cases carefully to understand what is meant by "manipulation." You see, these cases deal with something called "spoofing."

Spoofing is when traders place market orders — either buying or selling securities — and then cancel them before the order is ever fulfilled. In a sense, it’s the practice of initiating fake orders, with no intention of ever seeing them executed. And, traders that engage in spoofing are usually attempting to make money on a penny or two move in a price. When you deal with high-frequency trading, this can add up to a lot of money over time.

Yet, no one seems to understand that spoofing is not what causes large downside movements in the metals markets. And, this is when it is most often used to claim that a downside move in the metals market was due to "manipulation." In fact, if you review the cases closely, you will note that the "spoofing" occurred in BOTH directions in the market.

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As Francis Bacon noted hundreds of years ago:

"The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it."

Moreover, as Daniel Crosby, author of The Behavioral Investor wrote:

"A 2009 study out of Ohio State found that people spend 36% more time reading an essay if it aligns with their opinion. . . Regrettably, for honest seekers of truth, it is becoming easier and easier to avoid information that doesn’t square with a cherished personal narrative."

And, as Nobel Award winner Daniel Kahneman noted:

"Contrary to the rules of philosophers of science, who advise testing hypotheses by trying to refute them, people seek data that are likely to be compatible with the beliefs they currently hold. The confirmatory bias [of our minds] favors uncritical acceptance of suggestions and exaggerations of the likelihood of extreme and improbable events . . . [our minds are] not prone to doubt. It suppresses ambiguity and spontaneously constructs stories that are as coherent as possible."

So, every time we see a bullish article on gold, all the gold bugs come out of the woodwork to note their agreement with the "excellent" article. Unfortunately, the comments section should not be a point at which you determine whether an article is excellent or not. Rather, it is only when you view that article through a prism of truth can you determine whether that article is excellent or not.

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Then I saw the following comment:

"I'm seeking a better understanding of what will move gold prices?

1. I thought gold would move up with inflation. I was wrong.

2. I think fear drives people to gold for wealth preservation. It hasn't moved much like you say - it's trading sideways!

3. With QE/rate reductions, wouldn't money come out of bonds and treasuries and flow to equities rather than gold?

Seeking to understand these better."

And, it almost made me cheer out loud as this is someone who is seeking the truth to the market. And, as he correctly pointed out, gold did not move up with inflation, so there was another fallacy that was obliterated, which I really do not need to address any further.

Clearly, gold does not move as most people expect. And, that is because they are looking in the wrong place.

As the article pointed out it will be the Fed’s expected easing cycle to causes gold to rally, clearly, the author did not bother to review historically what occurred during easing cycles.

For those of you who have invested in the metals markets over the last several decades, you may remember that the Fed was fully into an easing cycle as we moved into the 2010s. And, it made everyone, including their mother, grandmother, and grandmother’s dog believe that gold was about to skyrocket on that action.

Well, back in 2011, I penned my first public article on gold, wherein I summarized my expectations at the end of the article:

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"Again, since we are most probably in the final stages of this parabolic fifth wave "blow-off-top," I would seriously consider anything approaching the $1,915 level to be a potential target for a top at this time."

In fact, even before topped, I responded to a question regarding how far I expect gold to correct, and my answer was the $750-$1000 region.

As we now know, gold topped within $6 of the target I set the month before, and then bottomed within $50 of the target I set years before. And, my friends, gold dropped almost $900 during a Fed easing cycle. Not only was it an interest rate easing cycle, but the Fed was even actively engaged in something called Quantitative Easing. Yes, you can read that again, as it is the truth. Gold dropped significantly during a major Fed easing cycle.

So, based on history, will it be an easing cycle upon which you can rely to view that gold is going to rally to $5000 "soon?" I think not.

Now, do I believe that gold will be going to $5000, $1000, or even $25000? Yes. But, folks, that is based upon a 50+ year cycle. Not "soon."

So, I will reiterate my near-term expectations. I am looking for gold to rally to the $2,428 region as my next big target over the coming several years. Yet, if we see very strong extensions, it could even take us to the $2,700 region. However, once that rally completes, we will likely see another multi-year correction take hold in the gold market, which will ultimately set up the next major rally a decade or so from now.

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For those of you who are questioning how I have been able to identify the turning points in gold so accurately through the years, well, it is because I recognize that sentiment is what truly drives the gold market. And, I am able to gauge sentiment using Fibonacci Mathematics as applied through Elliott Wave analysis. It has provided me with the accurate topping call in 2011, as well as the accurate bottoming call in late 2015 – in addition to many other minor turning points throughout.

Those of you who recognize Doug Eberhardt as another public author/analyst on metals may not know that he is also a gold dealer and runs buygoldandsilversafely.com. And, I have done my more recent buying through Doug.

As he was astounded by the accuracy of our analysis, Doug made these public pronouncements about our accuracy in the metals world, based upon our Elliott Wave analysis:

"I can attest to your accuracy on actually buying both gold and silver from us as close to the bottom as one could. With gold you called it to the letter and your limit order which was placed well in advance executed perfectly. The silver limit orders were within a tight range of the lows as well . . . Your timing on buying the dips is uncanny Avi! People should be aware of this."

"Avi has the magic touch. Listen to him . . . And I want to explain to you all what Avi did for you. He got most of you to buy the metals before the premiums shot up and before everyone ran out of product. This is the 2nd time he has done this and kudos to him for doing that for you."

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So, I can assure you that if you are waiting for the Fed easing cycle, inflation, manipulation, or the myriad of other reasons that are pronounced throughout the media as to what drives gold, you are looking in the wrong place. Sentiment, my friends, is what drives gold up and down.

Latest comments

If I was ever going to invest in gold it would be in coins period
The answer is no it will not!
Gold gold is a backstop against stupid and there is plenty of stupid.
One cannot stop stupidity, talking about global geopolitics or politics on country level or any politics.  Gold cannot stop this.
World order is so far from being as good as gold To say the least we ariving in tarnished times
Gold is a backstop against stupid. And there is plenty of stupid.
Treasuries will first spike on the 18th when there are no takers for the 20 yr. Gold will get put back down. Oil will tank on increased reserves on the 18th. heater shelter will break loose. Gold crashes just like the markets ... then it goes back up. Bond markets will rule direction. Look what happened at end of 30 yr Treasury auction on October 12th ... bondsmen are the ones to watch during turbulent times. this is a crash.
Gold has no value in western world. Food , education, shelter technology and entertainment for life not gold
clueless comment
gold is a Boomer toy.
said no one ever.
Gold is a financial instrument, very different from any industrial metal. The price of gold is fully controlled by financial system, aka big banks, though this price is not super important for them, because gold is small, very small comparing to the system. In result, gold price can be set by the banks to any number on any day, and this is not a major play. Accordingly, predictions of gold price are the the closest thing to “fools game”.
If you look at returns of any “valueable” commodities asset you will note that on a long time scale, the sheer mass of returns, 10-20x comes within a minor sliver at the “end” of that cycle. Therefore ex. Gold were to move from 1,960 to his $2,400 target or $2,700 target its a 22%-37% move, the problem with gold is that the paper market is short gold 300:1. My point is getting gold to print $4,860 in a scenario is not only possible the probabilities are increasing from albeit a low end, but in a doubling fashion. So what im saying is the author can have and call a top in the $2400-$2700 region and you could sell, happy with your 30ish % and go on to miss 110% more. Don’t think it could happen in the commodities market then you probably didnt think Oil could go negative either. Remember this is a fact, downward volatilty in Gold is now less than the US 10Y. Gold $4000 has a probability assigned to it greater than it has ever been.
hen I saw the following comment: "I'm seeking a better understanding of what will move gold prices? 1. I thought gold would move up with inflation. I was wrong. 2. I think fear drives people to gold for wealth preservation. It hasn't moved much like you say - it's trading sideways! 3. With QE/rate reductions, wouldn't money come out of bonds and treasuries and flow to equities rather than gold? Seeking to understand these better." Gold preceded inflation. See move from the moment the federal government started handing out stimulus checks for people to spend.  2. Fear does drive some movements in Gold. See Gold move up after Israel/hamas war expansion fear with Iran.  3. QE/rate reductions would imply something broke in the economy. Dollar and interest rates down, gold up. Gold furth up based on poor returns in the stock market.  That is the history of gold (see 2001 recession and gold vs S&P from 2002 to 2011 for further review.)
I am sick of this guy
We need an exact definition of Sentiment.  Otherwise, it is a word.  If you cannot define the word Sentiment so that we can test it via the scientific method than we presumably need u to tell us what it is.  That makes you special.  The flaw in this thinking about markets is tied to the idea that "the market is not linear".  As a statement of irrefutable mathematical certainty, the stock market is linear.  Only it is always in 2Dimmensions.  When have u read something not in 2D?  We know what that means in physics.  As such we can specifically define exactly what "sentiment" is.  It has NOTHING to do with the price.  The construct of time cannot exist in any 2D linear system.  As such it is the X axis that makes the pattern. Know that and you know When.  No waiting 3 years for the market to go up.  5 senses are taken in by way of 2D.  The experience is 3D.  So, the only question is do you understand the role of Time in 2D OR are you being put IN TIME by 3D people selling you a service.
I want everyone to look at the timing of the article he sent.  Gold futures had popped around 40 points and then he sends the article. In this he says asks how he has been so accurate.  For three years he has said every step of the way this was going up.  It has gone nowhere for 3 years.  If he is right and it goes north of 2100 which is totally possible, but he said it every day for 3 years how much money do you make?  Time is money.  If I have to wait 3 years to get paid, I can get a job at Walmart and fair better.   It is important to watch the timing of this frauds post.  His job is to get you to sign up.  Traders do not need to sell services.  This is legitimately fraudulent activity.  He did the same thing in March when a few banks took a hit.  He writes the articles before (as he has posted them before) and after the event he posts the article to tell you "See how I'm right" to have you believe he is prophetic.  He is a fraud.  You should be ashamed of yourself.
if you break 1932 than possible 19401950
yes
Hi
could ur hyping butt talk about something else?
Thanks prof's analysis, actually there are many factors and no one privately can see through accurated movement only if they are master crowd effects. quitely belief that: some hawkishs and consortiums can handle to drive it upon politic's instructs. is it ok if I accept tiny meals respect prof?
Stick to that idea and never buy Gold and revisit your article in a couple of years but never buy it and see how you are doing.
I wonder what the sentiment will be towards gold as the dollar collapses due to unpayable debt? Sentiment is a product of real world events.
I was going to say the same. People act as if the Government or Federal Reserve knows what they are doing. They don't.
Central banks and wealthy investors around the world are buying gold by the TONNE. I’ve decided that I’ll follow the smart money, thanks.
you are lucky, my post does not get through
These forums are heavily monitored by bots, to censor ‘unpopular’ opinions.
Central banks around the world are buy gold by the TONNE. I’ve decided that I’ll follow the smart money, thanks.
We can buy not in kilos but in grams
Incorrect. Kilo bars are widely available to the consumer. Whether you can AFFORD them or not is another story.
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