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Forward S&P Estimates Still Deteriorating

Published 11/13/2022, 11:50 PM
Updated 07/09/2023, 06:31 AM

Impressive rally in both the US stock, bond and international equity markets last week. However (quickly) the S&P 500 as of 11/11/22, was down -15.13% YTD, while the Barclay’s AGG was down -13.85%, leaving the 60% / 40% balanced portfolio down -14.62%, a full 5.5% improvement from the -20.11% return as of 9/30/22.

S&P 500 data

  • The forward 4-quarter estimate (FFQE) fell to $225.20 from last week’s $226.72 or a sequential decline of -0.67%, the smallest sequential decline of the last 3 weeks;
  • The forward PE is now 17.7x after the near 5% rally in the SP 500;
  • The S&P 500 earnings yield fell to 5.64% from last week’s 6.01%;
  • The Q3 2022 bottom up estimate fell to $55.90 vs last week’s $55.97, still above $55.

Rates-of-change

S&P 500 EPS Rates Of Change

Expand this spreadsheet and then examine the three years from 2022 – 2024: the 2023 EPS estimate is degrading faster than 2022, although the 2022 “52-week rate of change” went negative this week for the first time. 

Sector updates: 2022 and 2023

S&P 500 EPS Expected Growth Rates By Sector

Four sectors are expected to show faster EPS growth rates in 2023 (vs 2022) as the forecasts stand today: Consumer Discretionary, Consumer StaplesFinancials and Utilities.

Take that with a dose of skepticism.

Conclusion

Q3 2022 S&P 500 earnings season ends unofficially this week with Walmart's (NYSE:WMT) report on Tuesday morning. Q4 2022 S&P 500 EPS estimates have been coming down but that’s not a surprise if you’ve been reading this blog, since 2023 has been weakening too.

The relationship between changes in the S&P 500 forward EPS estimates and the 10-year Treasury yield make for an interesting discussion. There is no question, a less restrictive Fed policy will help take the edge off the the bond market, but it will also help the S&P 500 as well. Four separate 75 bp increases in the fed funds rate in 2022, and yet the S&P 500’s worst YTD decline in terms of end of week calculations, was on 9/30/22 when the S&P 500 was down -23.93 YTD.

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If you had asked me in January 2022 what would be the YTD return in the S&P 500 after four 75 bp increases in the fed funds rate, I would have speculated or guessed that it would have been a lot worse than down 23% – 24% YTD.

Throw in the incredible dollar strength this year and the S&P 500 and the stock market in general has absorbed quite a beating in 2022 and yet has held up pretty well (in my opinion).

CNBC is loaded every day with various predictions about many different stocks, and asset classes and it’s almost a comedy of errors. Evaluate “risk vs. reward” and be patient. International and non-US asset classes given the 10 and 15-year annualized returns look particularly compelling. Clients are still long the Oakmark International Fund Investor Class and EMXC or emerging markets ex-China ETF. Using the American Funds The Growth Fund Of America® Class A as a growth-stock proxy, the fund was up 5% this past week.

On a personal note, my 40th reunion from undergrad was held this past weekend, and it was in 1980 – during a Money & Banking class that was taught by an official from the Cincinnati Federal Reserve – that the fed funds rate hit 20% under Paul Volcker and the 30-year Treasury traded to 15%. Watching the 10-year Treasury yield hit 53 basis points in late July, 2020, just a few weeks before the Jackson Hole economic conference started, was really like watching your life come full circle.

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The general opinion is that the S&P 500 could be in for another leg lower as the S&P 500 earnings continue to deteriorate. No question the forward estimates are under pressure. I’m not going to argue with that notion or assumption, but only say that an enormous amount of damage has been done TYD from PE compression, so the switch can flip if the bond market pressure eases in terms of consistently higher yields, and there could be seen a longer period of PE expansion, like the early 1990’s.

It’s going to be tight (as they say) whether lower forward EPS estimates can be offset by steadier long-term yields.

Anyway, take everything here with a grain of salt and substantial skepticism. It’s one opinion. Past performance is no guarantee of future results, and nothing here today may be updated or brought current. Capital markets can change quickly, for better and worse.

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