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Tesla bull case 'more intact' than ever claims Gerber, earnings will plummet argues Gordon Johnson

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By Sam Boughedda

In a Bull vs. Bear debate on Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Thursday afternoon, hosted by Investing.com and Street Insider.com, GLJ Research analyst Gordon Johnson and Co-Founder, President, and CEO of Gerber Kawasaki Wealth and Investment Management, Ross Gerber outlined their view on the current health of Tesla and where they believe the stock is headed.

In a wide-ranging heated debate, Gerber opened up by stating he believes the bull case for Tesla "is more intact than it's ever been," pointing to Tesla's cash on the books, two new gigafactories ramping, and "total dominance" in battery technology and charging.

"Tesla is the leader in EV sales globally, with over 1.3 million in sales and growing to probably over 2M in sales this year," argues Gerber.

"Now, with the price cuts bringing the prices back down to a range where a whole new level of consumers can afford the car, we've seen demand skyrocket over the last couple days and week," he adds, clarifying that recent data shows inventory has dropped dramatically since the price cuts.

In addition, Gerber also said that the adoption of EVs is growing dramatically, and with the U.S. still behind other markets, he sees so much upside in the market and industry.

"Tesla will be like Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) and capture a large percentage of this upside," Gerber declared, also saying that EVs are better cars than ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles.

The Gerber Kawasaki President and CEO, see's Tesla shares at $150-$200 by year-end, although he believes it could double to $240 if they execute well.

On the other hand, Johson sees Tesla stock at a 6x multiple on around $2 EPS, so about $12 per share. The analyst said he "couldn't disagree more" with Gerber's argument and started by clarifying that his firm's research estimates that the price cuts come in at around $7,250 on average across all of Tesla's cars.

"If you look at their profit per car in Q3, it was around $12,797. They just cut prices by $7,250, so the new implied profit per car on these cuts is $5547," explains Johnson. "That's a 56.7% hit to their margin on these price cuts."

Johnson argues that for Tesla to get back to profit/breakeven, it will need to grow unit sales by 167.2% year-over-year in 2023. "What that also means is that their roughly 26% auto gross profit would drop to about 12.5%," he adds, going on to explain that in 2023, Tesla is "going to do around $2.18," referring to Tesla's EPS, with the current consensus estimate being $4.20.

"You're talking about a company that's going to see its earnings drop from 2022 to 2023 based on these price cuts and assuming no more price cuts of just under 50%. That would put their forward multiple today at 58.2x" said Johnson.

"This is just a car company," expressed the GLJ analyst, "this is not a growth company anymore."

Tesla bull case 'more intact' than ever claims Gerber, earnings will plummet argues Gordon Johnson
 

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Chris Hulderson
Chris Hulderson Jan 20, 2023 10:19AM ET
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I’m looking forward to their innovation still to come. Would love to see robots help more in production lines and eventually available to the public. Tesla megapacks and their nice margins help too. Continued battery development. Too much is being overlooked. I think Tesla will suprize the bears.
Smart Leo
Smart Leo Jan 20, 2023 12:28AM ET
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Atleast i have 20 target, this guy has 12. 🧐
Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee Jan 19, 2023 11:05PM ET
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Lol! Its just a car company…thats hilarious! You mean, just a car company that ACTUALLY makes money? Werent Ford, & GM both bailed out in the financial crisis in 2009? Tesla is actually a standout in many way. Back to $420 bitches!
John Falcone
John Falcone Jan 19, 2023 11:05PM ET
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do your homework before you type Ford needed no help
John Cahill
John Cahill Jan 19, 2023 4:26PM ET
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Of course Gerber is correct, what is he saying that isn't a readily observable fact?  Imagine the next year as twice as many Teslas are seen every day on the road, Semi’s are observed being massively impressive on the highway (think of the incline between Sedona and Flagstaff, Arizona) and the balance sheet as orders for them skyrocket, Cybertrucks start to be seen here and there, creating excitement and drawing attention to their owners.  Even if the workmen don’t buy them, their bosses will....there will be Cybertrucks running around flaunting all kinds of corporate identification.  And so on...Power storage, FSD, Model 2...sooner or later even Solar Roofs.  And that’s only the low-hanging fruit.   At some point, people are going to notice Tesla being the only wise investment in a sluggish stock market.
Brad Albright
Brad Albright Jan 19, 2023 4:26PM ET
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That's a reasonable perspective, but don't you think it applies to the competition too?
John Falcone
John Falcone Jan 19, 2023 4:26PM ET
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lol, pretty obvious you didn’t sell @ 400, you won’t get another chance
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hd tv Jan 19, 2023 3:43PM ET
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we know gerber is bullish tesla, tesla could go bankrupt and he'll still be bullish.
Jon Gr
Jon Gr Jan 19, 2023 3:43PM ET
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We also know Johnson is bearish on Tesla and with a $12 target always will be.
Steven Angelo
Steven Angelo Jan 19, 2023 3:29PM ET
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Analysts who think Tesla is just a car company and valued it accordingly have ALWAYS been proven wrong. Tesla has several levers to pull including semi and pickup trucks, and battery and large scale energy businesses. Tesla will also maintain much higher margins on vehicle sales due to higher volume manufacturing and technology leadership. Valuing TSLA at a 6 PE is lunacy.
Emanuel Dabah
Emanuel Dabah Jan 19, 2023 2:58PM ET
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TSLA going to 20 it is a car maker …
SEAN PARK
SEAN PARK Jan 19, 2023 2:52PM ET
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Mass media hit tsla in every way, because tsla is not speeding a dime on them
Brad Albright
Brad Albright Jan 19, 2023 2:51PM ET
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Sam Boughedda, how about including the track record of these analysts for some perspective?
Yulin Hu
Yulin Hu Jan 19, 2023 2:51PM ET
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Lol Gordon Johnson? This guy was so bad that he got fired, then he opened his own company lmao.
 
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