Get 40% Off
🚨 Volatile Markets? Find Hidden Gems for Serious Outperformance
Find Stocks Now

Earnings call: Ferrari reports record financial results for 2023

EditorNatashya Angelica
Published 02/01/2024, 09:09 PM
© Reuters.

In a recent earnings call, Ferrari (ticker: RACE) CEO Benedetto Vigna announced the company's record financial achievements for the year 2023. The luxury car manufacturer saw revenues soar to approximately EUR 6 billion, with an EBITDA of EUR 2.28 billion, marking a record margin of 38.2%. Net profit surpassed EUR 1 billion, a margin of 21%, and the company generated an industrial free cash flow of around EUR 930 million. Ferrari also celebrated historic victories at Le Mans, the launch of five new models, and significant progress in racing, sports cars, and lifestyle activities. Looking forward to 2024, the company plans to continue its success with the introduction of three new models and a focus on expanding lifestyle activities.

Key Takeaways

  • Ferrari achieved record financial results in 2023, with revenues of approximately EUR 6 billion and a net profit exceeding EUR 1 billion.
  • The company's EBITDA margin hit a record at 38.2%, and industrial free cash flow was around EUR 930 million.
  • Ferrari launched five new models in 2023, contributing to the financial success.
  • Shipments increased by less than 450 units, with EMEA and the Americas being the largest markets.
  • The hybrid share of total volumes doubled to 44%, driven by the growth of the SF90 and 296 families.
  • Ferrari is confident in maintaining profitability in 2024 despite cost inflation and increased expenses for brand and digital development.

Company Outlook

  • Ferrari plans to compete in Formula 1 and Endurance races in 2024.
  • Three new models are set to launch in the upcoming year.
  • The company aims to expand its presence in lifestyle activities and expects to grow the lifestyle business revenues by 2026.
3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Bearish Highlights

  • The company anticipates cost inflation and increased expenses for brand investment and digital development in 2024.
  • Industrial free cash flow is expected to be offset by capital expenditure and a negative change in working capital.

Bullish Highlights

  • Ferrari reported a 17% increase in net revenues, driven by cars and spare parts, personalization, and higher sponsorships and commercial revenues.
  • Adjusted EBITDA and EBIT saw significant growth of approximately 28.5% and 32%, respectively.
  • The company is on track with its electrification journey, with strong demand for luxury vehicles and no negative impact from the current economic situation.

Misses

  • Shipments saw a modest increase of less than 450 units.
  • The company did not disclose the amount of advances collected on the SF90 XX and the Spider.

Q&A highlights

  • Ferrari is reviewing pricing and plans to increase prices in the mid-digit range.
  • The e-building is set to start operations in June, supporting the electrification journey.
  • Personalization is trending at 19%, with an aim of 18% in 2024.
  • There will be no capital markets events for investors or the company this year.
  • Partnerships, such as with Samsung (KS:005930), are contributing to advancements in materials and electronics for Ferrari's next-generation cars.

Ferrari's strong performance in 2023, marked by historic victories and financial milestones, sets a positive tone for the company's future endeavors. With a strategic focus on innovation, electrification, and lifestyle expansion, the luxury car manufacturer continues to drive forward, despite the challenges of cost inflation and a dynamic global economic landscape.

InvestingPro Insights

In light of Ferrari's (ticker: RACE) strong performance and strategic outlook for 2024, the financial metrics and market data from InvestingPro offer additional insights into the company's valuation and investor sentiment.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

InvestingPro Data:

  • Market Cap (Adjusted): 62.37B USD
  • P/E Ratio (Adjusted) last twelve months as of Q3 2023: 55.03
  • Revenue Growth last twelve months as of Q3 2023: 18.68%

These metrics underscore Ferrari's robust market position and its ability to generate significant revenue growth. The adjusted P/E ratio of 55.03 highlights a premium valuation, which may reflect the company's luxury branding and strong market performance, including a revenue growth of 18.68% in the last twelve months as of Q3 2023.

InvestingPro Tips:

  • The stock's RSI suggests it is in overbought territory, which could indicate a pullback in the near term.
  • Ferrari has experienced significant returns, with a one-week price total return of 14.49% and a one-year price total return of 47.75%.

These InvestingPro Tips suggest that while Ferrari's stock has performed strongly, investors should be aware of the potential for volatility due to the overbought condition. However, the company's ability to maintain dividend payments for 8 consecutive years, as noted in the additional 19 tips available on InvestingPro, reflects a commitment to shareholder returns.

For readers interested in a deeper dive into Ferrari's financial health and future prospects, InvestingPro offers a comprehensive set of tips. The InvestingPro subscription is currently on a special New Year sale with a discount of up to 50%. To get an additional 10% off a 2-year InvestingPro+ subscription, use the coupon code SFY24, or use code SFY241 for an additional 10% off a 1-year subscription.

With Ferrari's strategic focus on innovation and lifestyle expansion, coupled with these financial insights, investors have valuable data points to consider when evaluating the company's future potential.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Full transcript - Ferrari NV (NYSE:RACE) Q4 2023:

Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Ferrari 2023 Full Year Results Conference Call and Webcast [Operator Instructions]. Please note that today’s conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker, Nicoletta Russo, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Nicoletta Russo: Thank you, and welcome to everyone who is joining us. Today, we plan to cover the Group's full of 2023 operating results and 2024 guidance, and the duration of the call is expected to be around 60 minutes. Today's call will be hosted by the Group CEO, Mr. Benedetto Vigna; and Group CFO, Mr. Antonio Picca Piccon. All relevant materials are available in the Investors section of the Ferrari corporate Web site. And at the end of the presentation, we will be available to answer your questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that any forward-looking statements we might make during today's call are subject to the risks and uncertainties mentioned in the Safe Harbor statements included on Page 2 of today's presentation, and the call will be governed by this language. With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Benedetto.

Benedetto Vigna: Gracias, Nicoletta. And thanks everyone for joining us today. 2023 will be remembered as the year in which we accomplished the many achievements and we strengthened our brand across each of its three [stores], racing, sport cars and lifestyles. For this, I would like to thank all the women and men of Ferrari for their outstanding work, all our clients for their continuous trust in our brand, and all our partners, suppliers, dealers and sponsors with whom we have continued to strengthen our relations. Among the many achievements realizing 2023, I like to mention three. The first historic victory at Le Mans. The second is the fund new model launches, further enriching our beautiful product offering together with a variety of new clients, engagement experiences. And last but not least, the new iconic bag and Maranello clutch that stems out to the cooperation between colleagues in Maranello belongs to sports car team and those in Milan of our lifestyle department. These achievements are reflected in our record full year financial results across all metrics. So let's start reviewing together a few key numbers of year 2023. Revenues were at approximately EUR6 billion. EBITDA at EUR2.28 billion with record yearly EBITDA margin of 38.2%. Net profit first in our history well over EUR1 billion threshold with a remarkable net profit margin of 21%. And industrial free cash flow generation of approximately EUR930 million on which about EUR800 million distributed to shareholders between dividends and share buyback. And now after the numbers, let's deep dive into our racing activities. Winning the 24 hours of Le Mans was an unforgettable day for our history. I was there. They will never forget June 11 afternoon because it saw our victorious return to the top class of the World Endurance Championship on the centenary of this legendary 24 hour race. The Ferrari 499P win was a true team effort. Every area, every area of our company worked together to contribute to our hypercar success. And I am really proud of everyone, as we say we are and we act as one Ferrari. In Formula 1, we fought till the very last race. Even though the last season has been a difficult one often short on satisfaction, we know we must continue to work tirelessly to return to the level that our tifosi rightly expect of us and we look forward to it. The continuous will to progress and strive for excellence in racing and everything we do testify our effort and our willingness to always push the boundaries of technology and innovation audaciously. And this leads me to the achievements we reached in our sports cars. In 2023, we unveiled five new models out of the 15 models announced at 2022 Capital Markets Day. Three models for the road Roma Spider, SF90 XX Stradale and SF90 XX Spider. They all raised the bar of technology and design still further to meet and exceed the desires of our clients. And two models for the track. During the Finali Mondiali at the Mugello Circuit last quarter, we unveiled the 296 Challenge and the 499P Modificata, both of which will set new benchmarks in tracks driving trails of our most passionate racing clients. Consistently and coherently, we follow our strategy of different Ferrari for different moments and different Ferrari for different Ferrari speed. This year, we continued to engage with our clients with many experience on the road and on the track. I refer to unique and truly engaging location, such as the Finali Mondiali, our Cavalcade, the legacy tools, our legacy tools to mention just a few of them. These are all experiences which continue to bond our community even further and evoke a true sense of belonging. These exclusive events enable our clients, our tifosi and enthusiasts to interact with the brand and live experiences together. 2023 has been a year of learning for our lifestyle activities, which have shown positive indicators among which improved retail performances, successful activation in conjunction, and this is reality, in conjunction with racing and brand events and record museums visitors. In fact, 740,000 brand lovers visited our museums in Maranello and Modena in the years, almost 20% more people than one year ago, confirming the strength of the brand and the passion of our community. Throughout all the year, throughout 2023, we have also done relevant progresses in our carbon neutrality journey. Indeed, we reduced our Scope 1 and Scope 2 emission by 7% in 2023 and by 16% versus 2021. We built our first prototype engine from recycled aluminum. We also installed solar panels providing an extra 2.4 megawatt peak power compared to last year, and additional 1 megawatt peak power will become available in the coming months from the Renewable Energy Community, the first ever energy community in Italy to be backed by an industrial company for the benefit of its local area. And this is only one demonstration of the moral obligation we feel to give back to local community. All of these developments, as well as the record result has been possible, thanks to the passion and dedication of all my colleagues here. And through their achievement in line with the company's strong performance indicators, I'm pleased to announce the yearly competitive award of up to nearly EUR13,500 for our employees. We are also proud to mention the additional four welfare initiatives that we have announced at the last November 13th, a broad based share ownership plan for our 5,000 plus employees, the extension of health checkups, the parenting support as well as the 250 new eyes. On top, we have also received the equal salary certification on a global level for the first time, a result we can all be proud of. 2023 was characterized by global tensions, geopolitical conflicts, supply chain disruption and cost inflation. All challenge we have learned a lot from. Our flexibility, our agility, together with the constant support of our clients and partners, allow us to look at 2024 with confidence. Such confidence also derives from the positive momentum that we continue to experience. Notwithstanding the current challenging macroeconomic environment, the vitality of our business is once again confirmed the by the order book on current models, which remain strong across all geographies and covers the entire 2025. During last month, I've been visiting several dealerships in Europe, USA and different countries in Asia, and I can tell you that the traction of our brand is really strong. You can really [predict] when you meet our clients into the dealership and you see how they interact with our dealers you can easily understand their strong attachment to our brand. Our dealerships are a great point of aggregation for our clients and events organized by our dealers help to give a boost to the spontaneous aggregation of our loyal clients. The residual values remain sound with different dynamics in the region and normalizing from the peaks registered in the post pandemic period when a lack of new product boosted them. The visibility granted by order book give us the confidence to look at the future, but at the same time, we need to keep always four wheels on the ground. Confident community and will to progress has been our and will be our north star during execution of our business plan. Following an initial phase of our business plan characterized by revenues and profitability expansion, in 2024, we continue to grow our top line, while consolidating percentage margins, which we expect to further expand towards the end of the current business plan. The record result of 2023, the exceptional visibility on our order book and the extraordinary performance of our business allow us to look at the high end of the 2026 target with stronger confidence. But beyond the record numbers what to expect in 2024 from us? In racing, our DNA, we will compete at the top in Formula 1 and Endurance. We have recently confirmed the World Endurance Championship team and in Formula 1, we have reinforced the technical team and expanded the manufacturing area, which is already up and running. And during the last weekend, we won the 24 hours of Daytona in GTD Pro class with our 296 GT3 cars, definitely a great start to the 296 careers. On top we have just announced that we are expanding our presence in the racing world with intention of setting records also by racing on the sea of the entire world. In sports cars, we will inaugurate the e-building in June, exactly two years later than the last Capital Markets Day. We will further enrich the product offering with three new model launches. And we will continue to announce our client experiences, both on track and on road, not only on brand new cars but also taking care of Ferrari’s owning pre-owned models with tailored events. In our history, we crafted about 250 different models of Ferrari and for us they are all equally important. They are all our kids. In lifestyle, in 2024 will be the year of progress with an array of activities designed to build the scale while elevating and expanding visibility. Among our priorities, we continue to focus on our carbon neutrality journey, which is further boosted by the ultimate goal to shutdown the three generators within the next 18 months. We look ahead at 2024 with energy, agility and confident community, but above all with enthusiasm for the new exciting challenges in front of us. And now, I hand over to Antonio to review the 2023 results and 2024 guidance.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Antonio Picca Piccon: Thank you, Benedetto, and good morning or afternoon to everyone joining us today. Starting on Page 7, we present the highlights of the results for the entire 2023. As Benedetto just mentioned, 2023 was another record year for our company with all financial metrics once again growing double digit and with a significant margin expansion of 3 percentage points at the EBIT level and even more at the EBITDA level. Even if our four year plan from the last Capital Markets Day is rather front loaded by design, such results went beyond our expectations considering the modest shipments increase and the inflation headwind affecting our input costs, a visible real life application of the obsession to privilege value upon volume and to control our locations to promote exclusivity. Let's dive into the details to try and shed some light on our path forward. Our strong business performance in 2023 was sustained by three main factors, a rich product mix per se, further emphasized by a surprisingly strong personalization uptick, coupled with a favorable country mix. These led to revenues up 17%, adjusted EBITDA growing roughly 28.5% that is EUR500 million with a very solid margin standing at 38.2%. Adjusted EBIT up approximately 32% with a yearly record 27.1% margin. Net profit of EUR1,260 million, leading to an adjusted diluted earnings per share of EUR6.9 from less than EUR5.1 last year. Of a particular note was the industrial free cash flow generation which reached EUR932 million. Moving to Page 8. You can see the details of the full year shipment. In the year, deliveries increased less than 450 units after two post pandemic years of strong double digit increase. As usual, geographies reflect our choices of volume and product allocation in the different markets. EMEA and the Americas were up versus prior year, representing more than 70% of our total shipments. Rest of APAC was almost flat at 17% and Mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan reduced their share by EUR0.02 of units to 11% in line with our long term targets for this area, considering its relative use and evident dilution impact on our percentage margins. Shifting to the product. The most significant change in the year was doubling of the idle share to 44% of the total volumes underpinned by the growth of the SF90 and 296 family. The highly anticipated Purosangue ramped up during the second half of the year to finally reach its cruising altitude in 2024. The Roma Spider, which was unveiled in the first quarter, already commenced and delivered in the last quarter of 2023. Special series represented by the 812 Competizione increased compared to one year ago, thanks to the deliveries of the Aperta version while Daytona SP3 shipments continued according to our plans between 30 and 40 units per quarter. Lastly, in the year, the F8 finally concluded its life cycle with the Portofino was also approaching its end. On Page 9, you can see the net revenues bridge posting a robust 17% growth versus prior year also at constant currency. The increasing cars and spare parts was evidently the main contributor, driven by the richer mix, personalization, pricing and likely higher volume. Price increases during the year were differentiated by product and geography in accordance with the decisions taken in the second half of 2022 to protect our margin from the surge of inflation. Personalizations continued to strengthen and in the last quarter, we witnessed a consolidation of the trend registered in the first nine months. In 2023, personalizations stood at approximately 19% in proportion to revenues from cars and spare parts, mainly driven by paint, liveries and the use of carbon. Sponsorship, commercial and brand reflected higher sponsorships, including Formula 1 and World Endurance Championship racing activities, higher Formula 1 commercial revenues and the better ranking achieved in 2022 compared to 2021, as well as the growing contribution from lifestyle activities. Engines revenues declined in line with the reduction of supplies of Maserati whose contract expired at the end of 2023. Therefore, from the first quarter 2024 onward, any residual contribution from the sales of engine and spare parts, whether for sport cars or racing, will be reported in the bar, named others. Currency had a small negative net impact, mainly reflecting the opposite dynamics of the US dollar, Japanese Yen and Chinese Yuan. Moving to Page 10. The change in adjusted EBIT is explained by the following variances; volume, positive and reflecting the limited increase in shipments; mix and price also positive and very strong for EUR461 million, thanks to very favorable product mix sustained by the Daytona SP3, the 812 Competizione and the SF90 families; country mix driven by the Americas and Mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan despite the small decrease in deliveries in the year and to the increased contribution from personalization and pricing. Industrial and R&D expenses grew EUR166 million, mainly due to higher depreciation and amortization, cost inflation and higher Formula 1 expenses. SG&A was negative for EUR43 million, mainly reflecting the continuous development of the company's digital infrastructure and organization. In addition, we kept on adding resources to enhance our brand investment, which encompass all our marketing, lifestyle and other initiatives designed to enhance the brand recognition among clients. Other was positive for EUR81 million combining higher Formula 1 commercial revenues as well as better ranking in 2022 versus 2021, new sponsorships, higher contribution from lifestyle activities and certain releases of provisions already discussed during the year. The total net impact of currency was positive for EUR15 million. With the positive net support of these variances, we reached the yearly records of EBITDA and EBIT margins that we [commented]. Turning to Page 11. Our industrial free cash flow generation was remarkable in the year, reaching EUR932 million, reflecting the increased profitability, partially offset by financial charges and taxes and most of all, capital expenditure for EUR869 million, increasing in line with the pace of development of our product and infrastructure, the already flat significant increase in the working capital, which reflects both the inventory expansion built to protect our delivery plans and the enriched product mix. Net industrial debt at the end of December improved below the EUR100 million mark, reflecting the robust industrial free cash flow generation, partially offset by our initiatives to reward shareholders. Dividends and buyback were worth approximately EUR800 million altogether, implying a distribution of roughly 85% of the industrial free cash flow generation. Finally, let's move to Page 12. Building upon the visibility we enjoyed, we outlined the guidance for 2024 as a further solid step towards our target for the years to come. Let me explain the drivers sustaining 2024 along the growth trajectory that we have designed. On sports cars, product and country mix will be positive and much more [relevant] volume once again with an increased contribution from the Daytona SP3 and a constant personalization rate. Commercial revenues from racing in Formula 1 will be affected by the lower ranking achieved in 2023 compared to 2022 despite a higher number of races in the 2024 calendar. Lifestyle activity will continue to increase the support the top line while investing a larger share of resources to speed up the pace of development. Cost inflation is expected to proceed through the supply chain, and SG&A will increase in line with revenues due to continuing brand investment and digital development. The above will contribute to the further profitability expansion while we expect inflation, brand and infrastructural expense, as well as increased Formula 1 spending due to the higher budget caps to flatten our percentage margin in line with 2023. The industrial free cash flow generation will be sustained by our profitability, partially offset by capital expenditure of approximately EUR950 million as many projects will enter in their advanced stage of development, a still negative change in working capital in its [broader meaning], mainly due to lower net advances collected from clients and increased tax payments proportional to the growth of our income in 2023. The underlying assumption on the US dollar exchange rate is that it will fluctuate around 1.1, implying a negative FX impact compared to 2023, including hedges. That said, we are already conscious of the stronger business performance recorded so far despite the higher cost inflation. Cash performance has been driven by the product mix, which will remain rich over the business plan and then this has been further enhanced by both the actions on pricing and the exceptional demand for personalization. For sure, we continue to stay focused on pricing and product enrichment and reassured by the visibility granted by our order book, we affirm the confidence into the high end of our 2026 target as Benedetto just said. I thank you for your attention. And I now turn the call over to Nicoletta.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Nicoletta Russo: Thank you, Antonio. We are now ready to open the Q&A session.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] And the question’s come from the line of John Murphy from Bank of America Securities.

John Babcock: This is John Babcock actually on the line for John Murphy. Just quickly, you talked about doubling the hybrid share from 2022 to 2023 from 22% of shipments to 44%. Out of curiosity, do hybrids tend to be favorable for mix? And then also, can you talk about what the customer reception has been to hybrid engines and if this is something they're asking for?

Benedetto Vigna: Yes, it's true we doubled our share of hybrid. This testifies that we are able in Ferrari to use the technology in a way that is unique. Coming back to the specific question, I would say that two points. Number one, the profile of the customer using this technology is not so much different from the one using the thermal traditional cars. And number two profit wise we are within the same ballpark as all the other cars. For us each car is a business initiative and all of them have to deliver according to our standards.

John Babcock: And then also just given what's going on in the Red Sea. Could you just quickly discuss if this was creating any challenges for Ferrari?

Benedetto Vigna: A challenge at the Red Sea is basically we don't see it at all. We double checked with our suppliers, there is nothing that is impacting us. So no impact on our production or delivery of cars.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Operator: And the question’s come from the line of Michael Binetti from Evercore ISI.

Michael Binetti: I guess, first off, Antonio, could you give a little context around the guidance for free cash flow lower this year? Is there --- I'm wondering if there's an acceleration in some of the development spend and maybe any delta in the deposits for supercars included in the free cash flow outlook or excluded? And then on personalization, maybe just a little bit on the strategy there going forward after a really good year on personalization last year. Is there an opportunity to take some pricing to help offset some of the cost increases that you're seeing across the business there?

Benedetto Vigna: I will take the second one, the accelerated question, Antonio will elaborate. So yes, the personalization -- I mean, we are a luxury company, of course we have to invest, personalization is an important vector of growth for us. And it offers also an opportunity for pricing out. And we started this year to review the price up in the mid digit area. So percentage is important, yes. Two, we are going to catch the price for this important dimension. The free cash flow, Tony?

Antonio Picca Piccon: I’ll try and explain the three reasons. The first is clerical, we are just paying more taxes. The second one is we are spending more on CapEx and 150 is what we have in mind for the year. And this is just because we have products that are now very close to the launch and number of products. And the third is the revenue cycle, this is just timing basically. There are, I mean, we collected our -- quite a bit in 2022 and 2023. We have kind of net reversal and in addition some new advances collecting in 2024. But the negative -- the impact overall is negative, modestly negative.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Michael Binetti: And I guess, if I could squeeze one more in here, I guess, with the e-building still on track for midyear. But can you tell us what we'll see early on as far as -- as you guys start to commercialize that? And what are some of the first things we'll see from outside of the company as you guys start to look to commercialize that?

Benedetto Vigna: This morning, me and Antonio were in the building. So we are on track. It'll be up and running starting this June. And this will be a place where we will assemble not only electric car. Electric car, as you know, will be ready if we are on track for Q4 2025. So also on the electrification journey, we are fully on track with our plan.

Operator: And the question’s come from the line of Susy Tibaldi from UBS.

Susy Tibaldi: I have three, I'll ask one at a time. So first one on the demand, within the luxury sector we are seeing some softening of demand, but it appears that the higher end exposed to the wealthier cohort is still doing extremely well. And it seems also from your opening remarks that based on residual values, some feedback from dealers, you're not really seeing anything. But just to double check, is the economic picture at the moment having any impact at all on the Ferrari customer, is there any comment, any additional color you can provide?

Benedetto Vigna: Look, as we said in the call myself and also Antonio. The demand, overall, the book is pretty strong, it goes well into 2025 [Technical Difficulty] at the end of 2025, in some cases even more. We do not see any negative signal on this topic. We keep, let's say, doing as a planned. Clearly, there is not -- in our client base, there is not an impact in any kind of -- in any respect. And this is if you want more [Multiple Speakers] we have been -- we had the dealer annual meeting end of November, we had also the -- we have been visiting several dealership in USA, in Asia and different countries in Europe and there is really a strong traction toward our brand.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Susy Tibaldi: On the margin guidance for 2024, which basically implies flattish margin. I wanted to understand if your core spare parts business is also seeing flattish margins, or perhaps that core business is seeing some underlying improvement, but then is offset by the dilution of some of the other segments where you are choosing to invest a little bit more. So it'll be quite interesting to understand the dynamics in your various segments.

Antonio Picca Piccon: [Multiple Speakers] the explanation, Susy, I try and explain it. So product mix and personalization are [Technical Difficulty] but we expect the cost base below that to impact us and to flatten the margin. If we wish within the cost of goods sold is just the budget cap on -- which is growing on the F1 racing activities that is growing year-after-year and in the upper side of this year.

Susy Tibaldi: And the last question. For 2024, when we think about the phasing, is it fair to assume that the year is going to be a little bit more front end loaded, given the mix evolution or is it going to be quite similar quarter-on-quarter?

Benedetto Vigna: I don't see a significant difference yet and there might be nuances, but no significant changes. Usually, Q4 remains slightly softer, particularly in terms of volume allocations. But as of now, nothing to flag.

Operator: And the question’s come from the line of Stephen Reitman from Societe Generale (OTC:SCGLY).

Stephen Reitman: Again congratulations for the very strong result, also congratulate you also the quality of the result. And we certainly noticed the positive impact from R&D capitalization was considerably lower in 2023 than in 2022 or ‘21. So points to a higher quality there as well, I think. A question, you mentioned about the Purosangue has now gotten to a cruising speed in terms of production. Does that suggest that we are on track to see that reach the 20% of the sort of annual sales? Because it looks like in 2023 it was only 100, so that’d sort of ramp up. And if you’d comment on what the personalization levels looking like. I imagine that people are paying a lot of money in terms of personalizations in order to secure bill slots as well for these in terms of to make their orders attractive. And secondly, if you could comment on China. You did mention that you are strategically looking at that market in terms of also -- managing in terms of the margin implication on sales in China. But I think there was an expectation that sales were going to maybe increase a little bit in the fourth quarter, because they'd be deferred it from the third quarter in 2023, but we actually saw quite a big drop in 2020 in the fourth quarter. So I'm just wondering if you could say, are there any issues about sort of like the demand in that market as well?

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Benedetto Vigna: Thank you for your extrapolation that we'll pass toward the team that made it possible. Coming back to the story of Purosangue. In 2023, we shipped a few hundreds Purosangue. In 2024, we'll be at increasing speed that it is 20% of the total. So basically -- I mean, your assumption, your calculation are pretty in line with our plan. The personalization…

Antonio Picca Piccon: But if I may, Benedetto, just to complete on that. I wouldn't focus on 20% of each single year. We said 20% of the yearly sales on average when we communicated around the Capital Markets Day, so then [Technical Difficulty] I mean, mathematically, even if Benedetto is in competition…

Benedetto Vigna: Yes, we are not that much. No, look, the story of Purosangue personalization, Steven, clearly, the Purosangue offers a lot of degree of the personalization. We see clients that are looking at the rims, the liveries, the painting, the roof. So there are some opportunities over there. And last year, we have been working a lot to strengthen our supply chain for all the personalization that the car is offering to all the client. The second question was about China. Well, China for us, I would like to say that there are three words about China. The number one for us is a young market. Young market it means that the client -- let's say, the number of car that we shipped with this market is not so big. To me the market is very young and we have to let it grow with the right speed to avoid, let me say, indigestion, [undigestion]. The second, it's a niche market still, because if you make the math, we are talking about 1,200 cars, it is written in the chart. We have slightly decreased this year but we are talking about a decrease in the range of few tens of units that since the market is smaller, it may look a few percent over this. And then the number three, we said since the beginning that we will keep China, let's say, around 10%, because it is not margin accretive. But again, it's important that in each country as our history testifies, we let grow the attachment to the brand with the right speed. Because if you grow too fast, the clients don't get used to what is Ferrari. This is what we have done in other countries and this is what we intend to do also in China.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Operator: And the question’s come from the line of Tom Narayan from RBC Capital Markets.

Tom Narayan: Question on the strong plug in hybrid performance. Just curious if you could extrapolate that for the eventual BEVs, full electric, you plan to sell. Is there really a translation there to say that consumer demand for the plug in hybrids could potentially mean that this cohort would be interested in full electrics, or are those buying the plug in hybrids just across the board similar to your existing portfolio of customers?

Benedetto Vigna: Look, we posed ourselves many times this question. We've been talking to our client, director [indiscernible] to the dealers. I don't think there is any extrapolation possible in this respect. I believe that we will have clients that will only take the red car, the ICE. We'll have client that will take ICE and hybrid as today. We will have client that will get in our family only because we have the electric cars. So I believe that we see very often that -- the answer is that, you know, I need [Technical Difficulty] because I need to go in places not be allowed by recollection. So I think any combination of these three colors, the red, the blue and the green is going to be possible. And I don't think that the hybrid car is an extrapolation. The only thing we take as a lesson is that -- I mean, looking at what happened at the end of 2023 that if there is always a way to use the technology in a unique way in the Ferrari way that also client skeptical at the beginning of hybrid turned to the hybrid. This is the point. I remember once I had a breakfast with a client that was skeptical about the hybrid and then he went to try it and he booked the hybrid, and this is pretty common. So this is a confirmation that our strategy to keep alive the three colors, the red, the blue and the green is the right one.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Tom Narayan: And my follow up, with obviously everyone really interested in your guys electrification journey that will happen. Just curious if we can expect capital markets events for investors and for ourselves as well coming up this year potentially or next year?

Benedetto Vigna: This year, for sure not. We are working for next year, but not for sure for this year. Only one point, the electrification journey, not really happening, is already started to happen since a while. So this is important. This is the key message we pass on the Capital Markets Day two years ago. We are already on the electrification journey since a few years.

Operator: And the question’s come from the line of Thomas Besson from Kepler Cheuvreux. We are now going to proceed with our next question. And the question’s come from the line of Henning Cosman from Barclays.

Henning Cosman: Interesting that you emphasizing price and personalization so much. I'm not sure I understood you correctly, Benedetto. Did you say you would raise price in the mid single digit percentage range on personalization specifically? If you could just confirm that. And if you would, also…

Benedetto Vigna: Confirm…

Henning Cosman: And on pricing, in general, are you willing to make some comments there? I think we recently talked a bit about the commercial opportunities on pricing in general, not just on the personalization. I know there's always the balance, of course, not upsetting your loyal customers who've been waiting for so long. But then again, you have opportunities because the order book is so long already and you're virtually sold out. If you could update us on the commercial pricing opportunities there? And then second question on personalization. If I understood Antonio correctly, the exit rate of 2023 was 19%. If I'm not mistaken, you're guiding 18% for 2024. You typically have three months of visibility. So I was just wondering how it's trending into Q1 where I believe you have some degree of visibility already, is it in line with the 18% or is it still on the level of the exit rate if that's not too precise? And then finally, third question on the Daytona, Antonio, you confirmed again in the opening remarks 30 to 40 per quarter. I believe you've sold around 150 so far out of the 600. So that would imply you still have 12 more quarters to sell worth of Daytona, that that seems pretty long. So I'm wondering if you would accelerate the Daytona volumes at some point so that it doesn't become such a long life cycle.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Benedetto Vigna: Personalization, Daytona for Antonio. I take the ASP. So as I told you, the answer to the first question, yes, it's confirm. We increase the price of the personalization exactly like you understood. When it comes to the price of the cars, don't forget that last year through all the year, we've been increasing the price. And it's also important that we consider that on the other side there is a client that has been, let me say, looking at Ferrari and we have to behave properly when it comes to the pricing increase. You already executed and we have to be respectful of our clients. While for personalization, in Daytona, Antonio, you can…

Antonio Picca Piccon: On personalization, you got me right. Meaning, in 2023, we are almost at 19% and 2024 is based on an assumption that we’d maintain more rest of that rate, visibility as of now is in that direction. And the last question on Daytona, yes, you are right, we expect to grow there to move from 30, 40 to approximately 60 third quarter and next year.

Operator: The question’s come from the line of Monica Bosio from Intesa Sanpaolo (OTC:ISNPY).

Monica Bosio: The first one is on the EBITDA margin that you guided flat this year for 2024. I understood that this is due to a cost base related to the production of more complex product. I can imagine that there is also a weight of the cost of labor. So I'm just wondering if you can give us some indication, what is the weight of the cost of labor on this flattish guidance, any -- it could be useful for us? The second question is on the lifestyle. In the preliminary remarks, Benedetto anticipated that you're expecting an increase in the lifestyle revenues. Can you please help us to figure out growth rate for 2024? And third question is on your advances from SF90 XX and the Spider. I remember that in the last call, you said that you are going to collect advances on the car. I'm wondering if you can give us any indication on the amount and on the time frame across the year.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Benedetto Vigna: Antonio will take one and three, and then I will reply to your number two.

Antonio Picca Piccon: It's not due to just higher cost base at all or related to -- it’s not related to the additional complexity of the production. I mentioned basically three elements. One, cost inflation. Cost inflation is still there. It includes cost of labor. We have an agreement in place with the trade unions for an increase year-over-year of 4%, which is embedded in these last function. But even component, and generally speaking, the change that is still embedded in current pricing, the impact of the inflation that has been going through the economy in the last 12 months. So that is an element, it's not a complexity. The second one are expenses for brand development, including lifestyle, of course, we are investing to grow the businesses [Technical Difficulty]. And also our digital infrastructure, we are growing and we need to grow even in that respect, including a significant rejuvenation of what we currently use. And the last element, which is [binding] both cost of goods sold and R&D expense in the P&L, are the expenses for the Formula 1 since the budget cap, which was originally meant to decrease over time, is actually growing since it has been agreed around the various teams to index spending to inflation. So year-over-year, it's gone negatively. And in terms of your last question on the advantage on the SF90, yes, we are collectively -- we'll not disclosed yet which are the target. I just said year-over-year take into consideration that the difference will be negative. So 2024 smaller than 2023.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Benedetto Vigna: So Monica, for the lifestyle, let's say, 2023, three important things. Number one, we improved the retail performances, because there is more traction towards our collection. Two, we saw there is, I mean, a strong -- a successful activation when you have event in conjunction with our racing and brand event. And three, we had record museum visitors, around 750,000, which is a lot. In 2024, if I were to define it, I define it as a year of progress because we have a list of activities that are aiming to build the scale and also to expand the network and let me say, our network, while, if you want, we elevate the visibility of our brand. So it's an year where we are aiming to grow as well. And also in this respect, we are in line with what we declared in June 2022 with our target to double this activity -- the revenues of this activity by 2026.

Monica Bosio: If I can add just a follow-up on the country mix. You said that the country mix will keep positive in 2024. I'm just wondering if it will be similar to the one seen in full year 2023?

Antonio Picca Piccon: I'd say, as of now, I wouldn't consider country mix being an additional positive in [2024], more or less flattish.

Operator: And the question’s come from the line of George Galliers from Goldman Sachs.

George Galliers: Obviously, one of the standouts of 2023 was the very strong price/mix. And we look at your five year plan, you were targeting around EUR700 million improvement in EBIT from price/mix by 2026. We're only two years into the plan and you've delivered close to 65% of that target. Obviously, on this call, you've been mentioning new initiatives around personalization and pricing, and there are clearly still several important new launches to come. So is it fair to say there is a decent amount of upside to that original EUR700 million that you flagged back at the CMD? Second question was also relating to something you talked about at the CMD, which was how you were going to leverage partnerships to co-develop best-in-class solutions with respect to electrification. I was wondering if you could give us some insights into how those partnerships have evolved. Have there been any unanticipated challenges? And conversely, have there been any areas where your partners have really surprised you positively? And if yes, would you be able to give us any small examples or snippets?

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Benedetto Vigna: I take the second one and the first one, I will ask Antonio to refine. So you remember very well during Capital Markets Day, we clearly said we leveraged the partnership for electrification but also for other technologies, because don't forget that we are making luxury cars and there is much more than a simple characterization. So we are doing lot of innovation also on hybrid cars, on thermal cars. So having said that, we are having a positive surprise on the willingness of the partners to work with us. We have partners in different places going from new generation materials to new generation, let me say, advanced electronics to advanced display. And we are having -- as I said, we are very positively surprised by all our partners, and we are working with partners in Asia, in USA and also in Europe. I can mention the one that we publicly released, [indiscernible] was with Samsung for the next generation cars. But there is another one I cannot mention. I can tell you that we are working also on the way material [Technical Difficulty] of the cars are realized, because as we said multiple times, carbon, the sustainability for us is important. We want to be carbon-neutral by end of this decade. And we realized that to achieve our goal, to go, to proceed along our way we need to work with partners that are also involved in the material preparation. So very positive surprise across the globe, very happy both because I have regular meeting with them. We are at on our side, they are also happy on their side. So Antonio, you further…

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Antonio Picca Piccon: On strong price/mix, I mean, if we compare with our assumption in the Capital Markets Day, you are right, we have been doing better. And I think we've flagged a number of times this year that personalization particularly surprised us in terms of their strength. However, it's fair to say that even the cost base has been much higher than we would have expected. The positive, of course, is the fact that the improvement from personalization and pricing has been such that allowed us to more than offset the impact of inflation. Now if we look forward, is there an opportunity for an upside on personalization? If the trend continued the way we have seen, potentially, yes, in terms of revenues. Whether this will flow through the P&L? It will very much depend on what happens to the cost base, exactly parallel with what happened in 2023.

Operator: Thank you. Due to time constraint and to keep the conference within the hour, we now end the question-and-answer session. I will now hand back to Mr. Benedetto Vigna, CEO, for closing remarks. Thank you.

Benedetto Vigna: Thank you. Thanks all of you for your time today and also for your question. The stronger 2023 results basically are a result of our strong brand desirability and also the confidence that we are having on this year forward is thanks to the traction that our products have with all our clients. I wish you a good afternoon. And I thank you, together with all the Ferrari team here, for your attention and for your interest in our brand. Thank you so much.

3rd party Ad. Not an offer or recommendation by Investing.com. See disclosure here or remove ads .

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you, and have a good day.

This article was generated with the support of AI and reviewed by an editor. For more information see our T&C.

Latest comments

Risk Disclosure: Trading in financial instruments and/or cryptocurrencies involves high risks including the risk of losing some, or all, of your investment amount, and may not be suitable for all investors. Prices of cryptocurrencies are extremely volatile and may be affected by external factors such as financial, regulatory or political events. Trading on margin increases the financial risks.
Before deciding to trade in financial instrument or cryptocurrencies you should be fully informed of the risks and costs associated with trading the financial markets, carefully consider your investment objectives, level of experience, and risk appetite, and seek professional advice where needed.
Fusion Media would like to remind you that the data contained in this website is not necessarily real-time nor accurate. The data and prices on the website are not necessarily provided by any market or exchange, but may be provided by market makers, and so prices may not be accurate and may differ from the actual price at any given market, meaning prices are indicative and not appropriate for trading purposes. Fusion Media and any provider of the data contained in this website will not accept liability for any loss or damage as a result of your trading, or your reliance on the information contained within this website.
It is prohibited to use, store, reproduce, display, modify, transmit or distribute the data contained in this website without the explicit prior written permission of Fusion Media and/or the data provider. All intellectual property rights are reserved by the providers and/or the exchange providing the data contained in this website.
Fusion Media may be compensated by the advertisers that appear on the website, based on your interaction with the advertisements or advertisers.
© 2007-2024 - Fusion Media Limited. All Rights Reserved.