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In recorded call, Trump pressures Georgia official to 'find' votes to overturn election

Published 01/03/2021, 02:41 PM
Updated 01/03/2021, 07:35 PM
© Reuters. U.S. President Trump returns to the White House with the First Lady

By Andy Sullivan and Michael Martina

(Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump pressured Georgia's top election official to "find" enough votes to overturn his defeat in the southern state, according to a recording of the hour-long call published by U.S. media on Sunday.

The Saturday call was the latest move in Trump's two-month effort insisting that his loss to Democratic President-elect Joe Biden in the Nov. 3 election was the result of widespread voter fraud, a claim that has been widely rejected by state and federal election officials and multiple courts.

Trump's call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, came as some of Trump's allies in the U.S. Congress plan to object to the formal certification of Biden's victory on Wednesday. The former vice president won by a margin of 306-232 in the state-by-state Electoral College, and by more than 7 million votes overall.

On the call, which was released by the Washington Post, Trump repeatedly pressures Raffensperger to declare that Trump has won more votes than Biden.

"All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have," Trump says, according to audio of the call. "There's nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you've recalculated."

The state conducted three separate ballot counts, resulting in two official certifications of Biden's victory. Final results show Biden won 11,779 more votes than Trump out of nearly 5 million cast.

Raffensperger and his office's general counsel reject Trump's assertions and tell the president that he was relying on debunked conspiracy theories spread on social media about what was a fair and accurate election.

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"Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong," Raffensperger says.

The White House declined to comment. Raffensperger's office did not respond to requests for comment.

Bob Bauer, a senior adviser to Biden, said the recording captures "the whole, disgraceful story about Donald Trump's assault on American democracy."

POSSIBLY CRIMINAL ACT

Trump's action drew immediate criticism from election-law experts and congressional Democrats who said it could amount to an illegal act.

"Not only is pressuring election officials against the law, threatening Raffensperger if he doesn't comply with Trump's wishes borders on extortion," said Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein.

Georgia State University law professor Anthony Michael Kreis said Trump may have violated state and federal laws against soliciting election fraud.

"If any other person did this – someone else with power to leverage over an election official – there is no doubt in my mind that at the very least a criminal investigation would be opened right away," said Kreis, adding that he thought that was unlikely in Trump's case.

If Trump were prosecuted, he would likely argue that he genuinely believed that the election was rigged against him in elaborate ways, said Justin Levitt, an election law professor at Loyola Law School.

Biden's narrow victory in Georgia was the first by a Democratic presidential candidate in a generation and has raised hopes among Democrats that they could win a pair of U.S. Senate runoffs in the state on Tuesday, giving their party control of Congress.

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Over the course of the call, Trump alternately cajoles, insults and threatens Raffensperger as he tries to convince him to overturn the results.

"We won the election and it's not fair to take it away from us like this, and it's going to be very costly in many ways," Trump says. "I think you have to say that you're going to re-examine it."

Since his election loss, Trump has encouraged supporters to hold raucous street rallies that have occasionally tipped into violence. Raffensperger and other election workers across the country have faced harassment and threats, with some going into hiding for their safety.

"There's turmoil in Georgia and other places -- you're not the only one. We have other states that I believe we'll be flipping to us very shortly," Trump said.

Even if Trump had won Georgia's 16 Electoral College votes, he would still have lost the White House to Biden, who will be sworn into office on Jan. 20.

Trump's lawyers have had no luck over the past two months as they have pressured officials in Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania and other closely contested states to overturn his losses.

Trump's call came days before Senator Ted Cruz is set to lead several fellow Republican lawmakers in a long-shot bid to disrupt the formal recognition of Biden's win when Electoral College results are tallied in Congress on Jan. 6.

The move is seen as a mostly symbolic protest and is not supported by Senate Republican leaders.

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham (NYSE:GHM), a staunch Trump supporter, said in a statement on Sunday that Cruz' insistence on a vote audit commission had "zero chance" of success.

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Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said on Twitter that if Cruz and "his gang" wanted to investigate election fraud, they should start with Trump's call with Raffensperger.

Ten former defense secretaries urged Trump to concede, writing in a joint article that the time for questioning the results had passed, and that any effort to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes "would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory."

Latest comments

The day he'll tell that dog s...t Is a Mac
We'll have shining sidewalks
By this notorious and criminal phone call, Flippy Dump just committed a grand crime forging the election results. Lock him up!
How?
Like the Ukraine phone call?zzzzzzmedia and Demis have ZERO credibility for anyone with IQ over 10
Losers are proud of their IQ over 10, even when they lost to Demis. Congratulations to you losers, especially for your IQ over 10.
Trump trolls leaving trails of tears
Actually he leaves with a list of accomplishments beyond the last 4 presidents combined...and your whole family for generations. Lol.
Name one
 I see you are going full toddler now. Good Job Zack, learn from your leader.
Clinton also lost by such small numbers and did't call anywhere
trump found the election fraud he was looking for, in fact, it is/was his own actions that is the only election fraud in these elections.
Trump begging Raffensperger to 'find' votes for him. How much lower can you get?
It's trump so you can't get any lower than he is.
Trumsky and his family should have the same fate as the Romanov's in 1918
Just a crook, and not that clever.
You?
We need to throw the whole corrupt gang into jail... Pompeo, Navarro, Bannon, Giuliani, Pence, and Trump.... who else did I missed?
💩
yeah ban everything your cult leader doesn't like, don't forget Fox News
you didnt even follow the conversation...
The fact that he still thinks he won, without any proof of fraud and only based on what he concluded in his mind, and that we allowed a child that thinks like this to lead our country... we should all be ashamed. Our system has failed us to correct the wrong and as result, 350,000 Americans have died, for one example of many Trump has messed up during this tenure.
Criminal president..attempted blackmail and coercion. He needs to be prosecuted. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. TRUMP IS THE VOTER FRAUD.
Uh...president elect bragged on camera about threatening Ukraine aid to get them to stop investigating his sons business...which is under investigation...lol
Criminal president..attempted blackmail and coercion. He needs to be prosecuted. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. TRUMP IS THE VOTER FRAUD.
the good news, is trump - is such an incompetent at everything he does - he's now giving criminals a bad name!
He who speaks does not know, he who knows does not need to speak.... Trump speaks too much so he knows very little on how things are run.... Biden does not speak much, yet he knows far more than Trump could ever wish... so thereby Order will be restored soon win Biden ascends...
I have never ever seen real evidence of fraud.... just because Trump keeps tweeting about fraud doesn't make it so... most Trump supporters doesn't have enough education to do some fact checks, so they all feel for the trick...
, you dont look. You dont want to know, you dont care because you only know “Hate Trump”. Weak.
 ev·i·dence /ˈevədəns/ Learn to pronounce noun the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Trump sounds like he has dementia
nobody believes Joe Biden won anything except a spot in a nursing home. Your all being Dupped like sheep in a slaughter house.
The whole world wants the man out of office so they can have their puppets back. Haven’t you noticed how loud and boisterous Iran China and Russia are suddenly becoming with three weeks ago?
exactly. Just watched documentary from the 70’s, “Hidden Agenda”. ...It’s amazing how the Democrats and the media or following the protocol and strategy to a T.
 Full toddler! Go Zack Go!
prison time
for the Trump and GOP cabal
There was widespread election fraud indeed. The Epoch Times ia covering it. Here is a database, https://hereistheevidence.com/
why doesn't the Republican Governor use this data?...
Because it is Fake data...
More coverage of election fraud, https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1344009358472957953.html
Humpty Trumpy had a great fall, and all the Kings men and all the Kings horses can't put Humpty Trumpy back again...
At least you are advertising that you have the intellect of a five-year-old.
 He!! yeah, Go toddler on him Zack! Teach him a lesson.
Trump should be in a loonybin
Good for Trump! Take out the eastablishment Republicans with the cheating leftists that are taking money from the Chinese. What a coincidence that George just bought Dominion Voting Machines! Follow the money.
LOL, good one. I laughed.
There seems to be more and more non political people standing against  Trump and his strange world. Professional Bureaucrats(an absolute necessity to a government that is able to function) are clearly keeping their careers as far away from Trump as possible. Even loyalist AG Barr  defected. He's had enough.  This phone call  to Georgia is just another example of what's been going on these last few years. This is in fact what corruption in government sounds like.
So what you are saying is the swamp has come together to reject the outsider? I agree.
Though to say professional bureaucrats are absolute necessity is a very ridiculous, it comes from a severe lack of understanding of a republic.
Trump doesn't believe in democracy and his attempts to over throw the election is the sign of a dictator. His lies are propaganda just like dictators and communist do and his followers are blind because they usually don't do any real research to find to the truth. He prays on the illiterate.
Biden showed his taxes because he has nothing to hide. Why won't Trump show his taxes?
what does that have to do eith anything? You were just following your media masters lead. You have no clue what you’re talking about.
 Trump said he would release his taxes. He did not, think this is just an example of one of the regular lies Trump tells you high intellect people....and you believe it. Good job Zack! You toddlers should get mad and stomp or something.
Propaganga and fake news. Voter fraud occurred, make sure it never happens again or there will be civil war!
What a disgusting creature he is... really, lower than a worm...
agreed I'd rather ***him than any worm. a worm is useful
Indeed, worms are useful, Trump on the contrary not at all. My apologies to the worms!
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