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Trump-Putin phone calls in U.S. Democrats' sights: Schiff

Published 09/29/2019, 11:03 PM
© Reuters. U.S. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) speaks during a news conference at the U.S. Capitol

By Doina Chiacu and David Morgan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congress is determined to get access to Donald Trump's calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin and other world leaders, the U.S. House Intelligence Committee's chairman said on Sunday, citing concerns that the Republican president may have jeopardized national security.

"I think the paramount need here is to protect the national security of the United States and see whether in the conversations with other world leaders - and in particular with Putin - that the president was also undermining our security in a way that he thought would personally benefit his campaign," Democrat Adam Schiff said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

The Democratic-led House last week launched an official impeachment inquiry into Trump in the aftermath of a whistleblower complaint from an individual within the U.S. intelligence community that Trump solicited interference by Ukraine in the 2020 election for his own political benefit.

The whistleblower's complaint cited a telephone call in which Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to open an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden, a leader among Democratic candidates seeking to challenge Trump in 2020, and his son Hunter. Hunter Biden sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company.

Trump, in a series of Twitter posts on Sunday evening, said he wanted to "meet" the whistleblower, who he called "my accuser," as well as "the person who illegally gave this information" to the whistleblower.

"Was this person SPYING on the U.S. President? Big Consequences!" wrote Trump, who added without providing evidence, "I want Schiff questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason."

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The whistleblower's identity has not been made public.

Trump's July 25 phone call came shortly after the United States froze nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine, prompting concern that the president was using the taxpayer money approved by Congress as leverage for his personal political gain.

The complaint said White House lawyers directed that an electronic summary of the call be moved from the place where such things are usually kept to a separate electronic system reserved for classified and especially sensitive material - a move Democrats have called part of a cover-up.

"If those conversations with Putin or with other world leaders are sequestered in that same electronic file that is meant for covert action, not meant for this, if there's an effort to hide those and cover those up, yes we're determined to find out," Schiff said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Schiff did not say whether he plans to subpoena that information. The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

The intelligence committee has reached an agreement with the whistleblower to appear before the panel, Schiff told ABC's "This Week." Schiff said he hoped the whistleblower would appear very soon.

Mark Zaid, a lawyer for the whistleblower, wrote on Twitter that the legal team was working with both parties in Congress and "we understand all agree protecting whistleblower's identity is paramount." Zaid said no agreement has been reached and no date has been set for the whistleblower's "contact" with Congress.

In addition, a letter from Andrew Bakaj, another lawyer for the whistleblower, informed Joseph Maguire, the top U.S. intelligence official, of "serious concerns" about the individual's safety after receiving threats, and expressed appreciation for "appropriate resources" provided by Maguire's office.

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The Ukraine scandal arose just months after Special Counsel Robert Mueller finished an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election that concluded that Moscow waged a campaign of hacking and propaganda to boost Trump's candidacy. Mueller's investigative report, released in redacted form in April, laid out numerous contacts between Russian officials and Trump's campaign, but found insufficient evidence to determine that a criminal conspiracy had taken place.

'DEEP STATE OPERATIVE'

Trump has defended his phone call with Zelenskiy and called the whistleblower a "political hack."

White House adviser Stephen Miller took up the attack on Sunday, accusing the whistleblower of being part of a "deep state" government conspiracy against Trump.

"I know the difference between a whistleblower and a 'deep state' operative. This is a 'deep state' operative pure and simple," Miller told "Fox News Sunday."

"The president of the United States is the whistleblower. And this individual is a saboteur trying to undermine a democratically elected government," Miller added.

Trump's former homeland security adviser Tom Bossert, in a break with the president, called himself "deeply disturbed" by Trump's call with Zelenskiy, and not just because the president sought assistance in getting political dirt on Biden.

Bossert voiced concern that Trump also asked Zelenskiy to investigate the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike, which looked into the hacking of Democratic Party emails in 2016 and helped lead American intelligence to conclude that Russia had done it, as well as the location of a Democratic server.

Bossert, who resigned from his post last year, said Trump was referring to "a debunked conspiracy theory that somehow Ukraine, not Russia, hacked the Democratic emails in 2016."

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"I honestly believe this president has not gotten his pound of flesh yet from past grievances on the 2016 investigation. ... If he continues to focus on that white whale, it's going to bring him down," Bossert told "This Week."

Schiff said Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani appeared to lay the foundation for Trump's call to Zelenskiy through his efforts to encourage Ukrainian authorities to investigate the Bidens.

Giuliani told Reuters he met Ukrainian officials in Madrid, Paris and Warsaw this year as he pushed for the investigation but said Trump did not pay his expenses for the trips.

Schiff told ABC his committee would decide whether to have Giuliani testify after the investigation fleshes out details of his involvement.

Giuliani said on Sunday he would testify only with Trump's approval.

Trump's Republican supporters in Congress defended the president's actions. "I have zero problems with this phone call," Senator Lindsey Graham told the CBS program "Face the Nation."

Lawmakers are working out logistics to protect the whistleblower's identity and get security clearance for lawyers who represent the whistleblower. A person close to the whistleblower said on Sunday many issues remained to be worked out.

Latest comments

Trumps little bubble is going to pop and he's going to have a breakdown in front of us all. *makes popcorn*
if this vice president might be corrupt...why the legal usa department do a routine check to clear all rumours?
this corrupt administration is going down.
Wishful thinking for 3 years now. People voted... Dems lost. Get over it.
I'm sure you're talking about the house...controlled by corrupt ppl that won't stop at nothing to protect their own and try to bring the democratically elected president to let them have their way
People chose Clinton with 3 millions votes more.
Spoiler alert... this ends with the democrats be proved to have spied and ised the intellegence community to try and frame trump for colluding...
What did Biden do?? Trump was being Spied ionn.Sobad
It's funny nobody seems to care...the dirty dems are doing a good job at protecting their own...even if one used his influential position as VP to help defraud investors abroad...you really think president Trump was wrong to ask for an investigation?
the dems know they are screwed in 2020 and are grasping at straws
you mean like all that Russian collusion? broken record left
Chinese small businesses, so who cares.
He won't be removed from office.
US Democracy no longer works. Never been more ashamed. Time for this country to dismantle regionally. New Engalnd + NY + NJ should secede from the union as should California and start their own countries.
could you give us a few insights here, how many states are running fiscal surpluses and ‘supporting themselves’ according to your criteria?
California country gonna be called Slumfornia or CaliFavela?
of course they rate number 1 in overall debt. They are the 6th largest economy in the world on their own! Their debt to gdp contribution is only 16.1% though. Debt is not bad, but a tool if used wisely. This is something the fiscal liberal who is about to get impeached could stand to learn.
There is no real evidence or precedent for this... its literally a search for anything to prosecute trump... over rezch will gaurentee trump is reelected
At James, if there is or there was ‘litterally a search for anything to prosecute Trump’ we should have found out a long time ago, isn’t it? I think he, his family and friends have been pretty lucky so far
Raoul, I don't agree. Unless you believe that all media outlets are lying about this, they all say that this transcript was moved from the server that official calls (not of National Security concern) are normally saved on, to a different server which is reserved specifically for calls that need to be protected due to National Security reasons.
Zoltan, I agree that the public is not entitled to "all communications between government officials" however, I believe Congress was seeking the transcript for themselves, not the Public. It's Trump who decided to release it to the public in this case.
Regardless of whether you back Trump or want him impeached, Schiff has no credibility. He lies, in an official capacity, almost everytime he addresses any of these issues.
You are all so hypnotized by the division you can’t stop. Trump is a sociopath , there is no weaseling really , because he doesn’t care ! Schiff is a classic washington scmbg, playing at being a virtuous person , cashing in on your hatred of Trump but in the end doing nothing of substance . Watch Schiff before Congress deftly editorialize while claiming to be reading the Trump transcript .
Attacking Trump while promoting or ignoring equally bad behavior from Trumps opposition is going todo one thing for sure , improve Trumps chances of being re-elected . I would vote for Hulk Hogan before any of them at this stage.
I never implied he had either . Trump , (like 95% of dc plsyers) has no integrity or honor .
Just funny how Obama tried to go against our constitution with our gun rights and nothing happen, but when Trump wants to find out more on possible inside government issues he gets the hammer
whistleblower may be COMEY former FBI guy.
What ? Whistleblower has already been identified. The NY Times outed him on Friday.
Clinton was destroying the country, GW was destroying the country, Obama was destroying the country now Trump is destroying the country....it doesn't matter who they're always destroying the country
Could you elaborate by any chance???
Headline isTrump and Putin? love how the article is clear that Biden did no wrong, but everything Trump does is Treason.
More made up garbage from the socialists and the deep state agenda. Unbelievable. The dems are a disgrace to America.
Why not throw aliens into the mix while you're at it? The Republicans are defending a Russian puppet in the WH and the dems are a disgrace? Do you even realize what you're saying?
Expose the wistleblower, none other that lawyer from dems.communist party. Evil liar Schiff now back to fake Russia collusion.
Investigate VP Biden blackmail of Ukraine President to save his son's backside.
Trump is a traitor and a crazy person and anyone who can't see that is blind. His presidency is a threat to everything that America stands for.
wonder how how our economy is doing fantastic under his leadership? only freeloaders and illegals support communist party.
guess I am blind.. but you are welcome to leave
Most of the relplies over internet are adultered by trump and social media gang.
or a misinformation campaign...
Schiff and his cabal are criminals. Another witch-hunt because Trump is going to stomp the Dems in 2020. They got nothing to offer we the people, so a coup is their only option. Disgraceful! #impeachCongress
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