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Point/Counterpoint: The Fed's GDP Outlook Bears Vs. Bulls

Published 06/12/2020, 05:49 PM
Updated 06/13/2020, 07:45 AM
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By Liz Moyer and Yasin Ebrahim

Investing.com - Until this week, investors seemed to be buying the story of a swift economic revival. But the Federal Reserve ended those hopes, predicting the economy will contract by 6.5% this year, followed by a robust 5% rebound in 2021.

Is the Fed’s economic outlook for next year more hope than reality?  

Liz Moyer argues that a rapid economic recovery is fraught with difficulty given the damage of the Covid-19 shutdowns and the potential for a second wave of infection.

Yasin Ebrahim contends that the well of stimulus from both the Federal Reserve and Congress will support the economy, which is already showing signs of bottoming out, until a vaccine is found, with hope sometime next year. This is Point/Counterpoint.

The Bear Case

On Friday, the Fed's monetary report to Congress set a bleak picture. The economy, which entered recession in February, could be struck by a large number of small business failures, which would further slow recovery and lead to lasting damage.

Recovery, the report said, depends on these businesses for survival. The prospect of "widespread failure would adversely alter the economic landscape of local communities and potentially slow the economic recovery and future labor productivity growth."

Job losses have hit small businesses harder, and such businesses make up about half the jobs in the private sector. Many of them were forced to close completely until social distancing rules can be loosened or lifted.

On the subject of jobs, some 20.9 million Americans were collecting unemployment as of last week. That's down from the peak of 24.9 million earlier in May but still at record high levels since the post-World War II era. Businesses are slowly reopening, but there's no way to quantify how many jobs have been permanently eliminated by the shutdowns, as businesses either go under or find new ways to operate in a post-Covid world.

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The Fed was already projecting economic growth of less than 2% next year and the year after, even with historically low interest rates at practically zero. And that was with unemployment numbers at their lowest in 50 years and business humming. It's hard to imagine bouncing back to growth of 5% next year after contracting 6.5% this year amid the start-and-stop of the pandemic.

As Fed Chair Jay Powell said himself, the pace of recovery depends on how well the U.S. manages the virus. "A full recovery is unlikely to occur until people are confident that it is safe to reengage."

The Bull Case

There is no getting around the fact that a Covid-19 vaccine is the ultimate cure for the economy to prosper, once again. But short of a vaccine, stimulus is the next best thing.

Armed with an unprecedented wave of stimulus, the economy – after weeks of bruising attacks from Covid-19, the 'invisible enemy' – is showing signs of life.

The most recent report on the labor market showed an unexpected return in hiring that caught everyone, including the most revered economists, by surprise, further supporting the growing narrative that the worst of the pandemic's impact on the economy is over.

Recently, the uptick in coronavirus infections across states has threatened that narrative, raising fears of ‘lockdown 2.0.’

But the economy-crippling lockdowns are unlikely to be resurrected.

"We can't shut down the economy again. I think we've learned that if you shut down the economy, you're going to create more damage," Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in an interview on CNBC.

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With the odds of another lockdown fast diminishing, and the economy showing signs of a pulse, the pace of developing a Covid-19 vaccine has taken on increasing importance to support the Fed’s bold prediction for the economy to grow 5% next year.

Fortunately, the race to develop a vaccine within the next year is well underway, with potential drugs and therapies already showing promising results in early-stage testing.

Early stage vaccine testing in animals and phase 1 testing in humans "looks quite promising," said Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci.

"I believe that if we get the trial going this summer, we will collect enough data by the Fall and early Winter, that by the end of this calendar year, we may know that a vaccine works and have doses to distribute and likely well into the early part of 2021," he said.

With the dawn of the new year widely expected to bring a vaccine, and the well of stimulus set for fiscal and monetary top-up in the coming months, the economy could well be set-up for boom rather than bust.

 

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Covid19 + libra .. the biggest scam on earth
ha...i'd like to say a little bit more.. it's free for everyone to think, judge, predict, whatever.. well, this pandemic situation should be overcome asap. it matters not only money but also lives. All People Lives Matter. some bearish look like they hope to short a lot while expecting 2nd virus wave and great recession. so to speak, sometimes, it's very easy to make money with clicking or touching several times. it's not just about the ability of companies of the world. many people are very busy to solve the situation. i don't know.. i just wanted to say something even though this space is about stock. All People Lives Matter. i hope you don't say to people you think the development of vaccines will take a lot of time more than people think. as F Coutinho said, the economy is adapting this current reality. i hope we will cheer everyone up a little bit more. anyway this pandemic situation should be overcome asap. your loving people could get hurt too.
Does anyone in here making bullish comments pay attention to or know what Elliot wave is?  For that matter pay attention to stock market technical indicators?  The market has turned and will head down from here.
Whats amazing to me is that the market continued to climb in the midst of warning signs well over three weeks ago!  (the rate of  US "new cases"  had ceased dropping and leveled off for the most part). It took the Fed, rather then medical experts who were noting  these changes,  to finally convince the market.  The so-called and much feared "second wave" appears to be happening or at least beginning. The country must have a considerable amount of free cash searching for decent earnings to pump things the way it has! As a retired physician I noted these changes early on, but even someone like me tended to follow the herd and be hopeful, rather then believing my gut.  "Hope springs eternal"
the economy has been in recession long before covid. trlns of stimulus and market manipulation will eventually run out of steam, destroying the so-called V-shape recovery
It's time for FED to steps back from buying stocks over time. Of course, it has to provide financial stability, but it need in stock market shall be reduced. Hence, prices shall tend lower over the next few weeks - not suddenly, but consistent.
more unemployed now then the height of the global recession. you can pay everyone to stay home but with no one working/producing what will those checks be able to buy? food shortage, production shutdown, and imports restricted those checks won't help anyone turn dollars into the bread they need to survive.
"The most recent report on the labor market showed an unexpected return in hiring that caught everyone, including the most revered economists, by surprise, further supporting the growing narrative that the worst of the pandemic's impact on the economy is over." Not a sinle one of these big whigs understands that all small business hired back for memorial day weekend in one last push to stay open?
I refuse to inject myself with that hastily made vaccine. Then what?
Isolated ur accounts remove from websites because you dont hv covid certification through iD2020Crown 👑Its a spiritual thing
youngwealth.. please elaborate
At first they came for the weak and poor...
Election is next main concern on wall Street. Hopefully, FED can be more independent and focus on economy not political pressure ~ economy need stable in long term, not frog leap ~ long term investor.
hey hey~ let’s be honest. most of you guys sound like ‘oh... if possible, i’d like to buy march price a lot again... fed’s QE and stimulus money and so on will save us~ save us~~ save us~~~’
oh plus, in most cases, positive people solve the problems and earn more money. our history has been proving it. of course we always should be careful at the same time.
  Being "positive" is great as long as it's  based mostly on truth and reality.. Otherwise it does more harm then good.
At current "dont fight FED" means to slowely redure stock prices by 2 to 3 % over the next 4 to 6 weeks. When we reached 2'400 to 2'500 it we go sideways for a pretty long time.
I'll take sideways over whatever this os
is it possible to kick the can down the road any further? restructuring the economy, letting rates rise , allowing bad businesses to fail , is the only way to heal this debt ridden paralyzed economy
stop bailing out bad business practices (buying back stock with debt to fudge earnings)
companies affected by the lock down will fall. bad cash position, even worse. HOWEVER, some companies are not affected by the lock down and keep operating normally, such as e-commerce, innovation-driven and banks, which are completely online nowadays and which government never let fall.
Banks have loans to companies, SME, consumer-credit and such. Many will not be paid... Not so rosy picture
Go The Fed! Economies fine... nothing to see here, bad news/good news, its all good news! Trump will fix it! up the DOW 500 points Monday l!
Hey keep buying so the smart ones can take profit. Low information traders good luck
Only time will be a actual judge what will hapoen to the economy. We have to work as one nation under god if we need prosporus economy.
I am bullish over long. But I know stock will fall. The main thing that drives price of stock is dividends you get from them or hope to get dividends. At this point many companies definitely will not earn anything 2-3 years. So there will be no point to keep their's shares. This will pull indexes down. Stimulus from Trump was noton time. It should had been done after reopening started
many companys will not earn for 2-3 years??
47% upside from last Thurs. 1. "A still low overall equity positioning backdrop" - Investors are underweight stocks. 2. "A rapid healing of funding markets" - Companies can access the credit market to raise debt at reasonable interest rates. 3. "A structural change in the liquidity and interest rate environment" - Don't fight the fed. 4. "A rapid economic recovery driven by steady lockdown relaxation" JPMorgan said non-bank investor positioning (households, corporations, pensions, etc.) in stocks, bonds, and cash "is still pointing to plenty of upside for equities in the medium to longer term."
last time i read an article and was saying that gold prices will decrease but in reality gold was go to the moon
We will not see march level drops, but surely a major pullback is coming this week. And if we see a widespread of business bankruptcies, CLO contracts will bring us back in a 2008 type of recession, or depression
vaccine or no vaccine, things are opening. If they try lockdowns again, the lock downs will be the least of our concerns. the civil war that ensues will burn it all down just fine.
When a second wave is likelyto occur then you dont need a second lockdown. Anybody will stay a home to be safe anyway ... and as Sweden shows, economy-wise it's the same, with or without a lockdown, an economical desaster!
Does anyone really think that Average Joe, who hasn't worked in 3 months, is driving the market up?
Average Joe is making more than Working Joe currently
If you think you are buying march prices again, you will wait until the next pandemic.
Or maybe the election
There’s way more visibility now than there was back in march. Nobody knew the virus potential. The economy is adapting this current reality, covid already showed it’s limitations and it is a matter of time until good news start coming again. Waves of infection won’t stop untill a vaccine, but we already know how to deal with it.
You mean to die on the gangway of an hospital, or only to be handicaped over years because of a massive reduction of your pulmonic capacity? Of couse, each is willing to handel this ...
We wont go down to levels seen in march april ....Some pullbacks here and there but eventually to the moon!!! Now is the time to keep loading the boat
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