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China, U.S. kick off new round of tariffs in trade war

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By Ben Blanchard and Steve Holland

BEIJING/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - China and the United States began imposing additional tariffs on each other's goods on Sunday, the latest escalation in a bruising trade war, but U.S. President Donald Trump said the sides would still meet for talks later this month.

Trump, writing on Twitter, said his goal was to reduce U.S. reliance on China and again urged American companies to find alternate suppliers outside China.

A new round of tariffs took effect from 0401 GMT, with Beijing's levy of 5% on U.S. crude marking the first time the fuel has been targeted since the world's two largest economies started their trade war more than a year ago.

The Trump administration on Sunday began collecting 15% tariffs on more than $125 billion in Chinese imports, including smart speakers, Bluetooth headphones and many types of footwear.

In retaliation, China started to impose additional tariffs on some of the U.S. goods on a $75-billion target list. Beijing did not specify the value of the goods that face higher tariffs from Sunday.

The extra tariffs of 5% and 10% were levied on 1,717 items of a total of 5,078 products originating from the United States. Beijing will start collecting additional tariffs on the rest from Dec. 15.

Trump on Sunday cited comments from U.S. economist Peter Morici, who claims the tariffs will not impact U.S. consumers that much given a drop in the Chinese currency, and called on U.S. companies to find suppliers outside of China.

"We don’t want to be servants to the Chinese!" he said. "This is about American Freedom. Redirect the supply chain. There is no reason to buy everything from China!"

Later, he told reporters that talks with China were continuing and the two sides would meet in person in September.

"We are talking to China, the meeting is still on, as you know, in September," he said. "We'll see what happens, but we can't allow China to rip us off anymore as a country."

Chinese state media struck a defiant note.

"The United States should learn how to behave like a responsible global power and stop acting as a 'school bully,'" the official Xinhua news agency said.

"As the world's only superpower, it needs to shoulder its due responsibility, and join other countries in making this world a better and more prosperous place. Only then can America become great again."

Tariffs could not impede China's development, said the official People's Daily of the ruling Communist Party.

"China's booming economy has made China a fertile ground for investment that foreign companies cannot ignore," it said, in a commentary under the name 'Zhong Sheng', or 'Voice of China', which is often used to state its view on foreign policy issues.

Last month, Trump said he was increasing existing and planned tariffs by 5% on about $550-billion worth of Chinese imports after Beijing announced its own retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods.

Tariffs of 15% on cellphones, laptop computers, toys and clothing are to take effect on Dec. 15.

The U.S. Trade Representative's Office said on Thursday it would collect public comments through Sept. 20 on a planned tariff increase to 30% on a $250-billion list of goods already hit with a 25% tariff.

Trade teams from China and the United States continue to talk and will meet in September, but tariff hikes on Chinese goods set to go in place on Sunday will not be delayed, Trump has said.

For two years, the Trump administration has sought to pressure China to make sweeping changes to its policies on intellectual property protection, forced transfers of technology to Chinese firms, industrial subsidies and market access.

China has consistently denied Washington's accusations that it engages in unfair trade practices, vowing to fight back in kind and criticizing U.S. measures as protectionist.

China has pressed the United States to cancel the tariff increase, but said last week that a September round of talks was being discussed between the two.

The trade war further strains Beijing-Washington ties, already overshadowed by U.S. freedom of navigation exercises near Chinese-occupied islands in the disputed South China Sea, and U.S. support for self-ruled and democratic Taiwan, which China claims as its own.

Trump has also linked the trade talks and the protests in Hong Kong, saying he believes the negotiations with the United States had led Beijing to be more restrained in its response to the demonstrations in Hong Kong.

China, U.S. kick off new round of tariffs in trade war
 

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Leo Putra Wijaya
Leo Putra Wijaya Sep 01, 2019 11:52PM ET
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Idk why but from the way the commenters put their mind into their comments, it does make me believe that we are already in recession, not heading into. like the movie "the big short", where all the ingredients are already in the pot and just waiting to cook. all trade deal talks are just BOTH China and US delaying the dinner time. Other than Gold and yen, do u guys have other alternatives to safeguard ur money ?
Ah Chew
Ah Chew Sep 01, 2019 8:12PM ET
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Trade war is here to stay.. Now China is being targeted, next will be Vietnam and Thailand.. One thing for sure, jobs are not heading back to US.. Not sure if trump got his strategy reviewed but businesses will move to whichever location that gives them cost benefits. Period!!!
Jonathan Snell
Jonathan Snell Sep 01, 2019 8:12PM ET
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cheap labor rules the world
Buzzy Jefferson
Buzzy Jefferson Sep 01, 2019 6:54PM ET
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When China starts *******neighboring country’s people in their own national waters anywhere in the East Vietnam Sea, all of Asia will form a military pact to put down the rabid animal. The rest of the world will help them. Sooner or later China’s own hubris and arrogance will be the end of them. If China thinks their capacity to make cheap ******for the world buys them the right to act like a 300 pound wild eyed 3rd grader, they are gravely mistaken.
Sep 01, 2019 6:54PM ET
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Agree
Tumelo Mash
Tumelo Mash Sep 01, 2019 6:50PM ET
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Today its a Sunday part two. The is definitely gonna be low volatility unless Trump intervenes.
Usama Khalil
Usama Khalil Sep 01, 2019 4:49PM ET
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how will this trade war effect gold, any idea? I am thinking of 1600.
Eric Haberman
Eric Haberman Sep 01, 2019 4:49PM ET
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2000 by October
Usama Khalil
Usama Khalil Sep 01, 2019 4:49PM ET
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how will this trade war effect gold, any idea? I am thinking of 1600.
Shawki Mohammed
Shawki Mohammed Sep 01, 2019 3:45PM ET
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Long Gold and JPY for now, shorting those two is risky especially when DT still on his twitter account.
Dmitry Dean
Dmitry Dean Sep 01, 2019 3:41PM ET
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so what will the market do on Tuesday?
Dima Bedin
Dima Bedin Sep 01, 2019 2:15PM ET
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So true: “US should learn how to behave like a responsible global power and stop acting as a 'school bully,'"
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Greg Hamilton
OptionsTrader Sep 01, 2019 2:15PM ET
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Yellen was part of the Obama admin...and the TPP was heavily in China's favor, not the US.
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Agree
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Should learn
Linda Liao
Linda Sep 01, 2019 1:46PM ET
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General Motors has plants in China, 43% of their income is from China. If they leave China as Mr. Trump requests, they will lost that market and their stock price will waterfall. Then next they have to lay off workers to avoid bankrupsty. What would GM do? Wait to see .
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Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 1:46PM ET
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DOUG DANYLUK  "made in China" is actually assembled in China. Don't believe? Go check the definition. Apple is only assembled in China, and FoxConn is only one of the suppliers/manufacturers. You know Samsung stock has gone down a lot, more than FoxConn? You know why? Trade war, and reduced use of iPhone in China. Yeah... of one iPhone, China took 8% of the profit, the rest goes to the other 4 countries. If you ban iPhone sales in China, China loses 8%... the other 4 countries lose.. 92%. Talk about impact from trade... I don't know what's Trump's plan... but it's good to have recession in the USA... cos I'm ready to BUY BUY BUY!
Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 1:46PM ET
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Linda is one of the few who see through this whole thing... she is smart. I don't know how many workers the Indiana plant has to lay off... oh well.. just like the farmers who voted for Trump.. never mind..
DOUG DANYLUK
CLASSIC1 Sep 01, 2019 1:46PM ET
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Sean Livingstone  . . . Wai, so expressing disagreement and critiquing ones government warrants the total onslaught of the Chinese gov? . . . Acting out of fear reveals weakness Wai, By the way, a recession is coming just like all prevous recession, Stop panicking,You will survive :))
Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 1:46PM ET
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DOUG DANYLUK  I like recession. You seem to be unable to read.. huh?
Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 1:46PM ET
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DOUG DANYLUK  so what do you expect from a communist government? Give you free money and let you live in luxury? LOL
Dauda Yahaya Sallau
Dauda Yahaya Sallau Sep 01, 2019 1:23PM ET
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Trump, intention for American companies to look out side china would work real. China would choose to block American good. What is the benefit
Dima Bedin
Dima Bedin Sep 01, 2019 1:23PM ET
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Lol look outside. There is no second China if u dont get it
Bade Sahib
Bade Sahib Sep 01, 2019 12:58PM ET
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Communist elites are the new Kings
Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 12:58PM ET
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Definitely... like moving from China (Communist) to Vietnam (Communist)... no matter where you go, Communists are benefiting.. LOL
cesar mejia
cesar mejia Sep 01, 2019 12:14PM ET
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dollar crisis on the horizon..stack gold and silver.
Tumelo Mash
Tumelo Mash Sep 01, 2019 12:14PM ET
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Stacking on gold in the long term is a definite yes. But right now. It's uncertain. We need more juice and that juice is coming on Tuesday as we see the manufacturing numbers if they are still decreasingGold will rise
Tumelo Mash
Tumelo Mash Sep 01, 2019 12:14PM ET
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As more recession worries rise. And the Fed decision this month will give us and idea what they feel like if they cut. They will shock us all. But if they don't we will prepare to see the minutes and decide whu is the outcome of their decision that way
brad merck
brad merck Sep 01, 2019 12:14PM ET
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1600 near
Tumelo Mash
Tumelo Mash Sep 01, 2019 12:14PM ET
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By January 2020...$1600 would have been breached or tested depending on the events that unfold in the following months
Jay King
Jay King Sep 01, 2019 10:17AM ET
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who cares trade war I rather watch basketball world cup
DOUG DANYLUK
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This trade war is nothing but s side show. The real friction is someone (Trump) is finally pushing back on China's tactics and shallow use of words such as 'respect', 'dignity', 'fair play', Every other country recognizes the international law governing a 200 mile economic zone extending from its shores - except China, . 'The United States should learn how to behave like a responsible global power and stop acting as a 'school bully'," the official Xinhua news,  . I suggest China lead by example and begin by withdrawing from its illegal occupation of South China Sea islands. No one is fooled by its creation of this so called 'red dash' map conveniently produced to provide foundation to its aggression on its neighbors and deny them their rights under international law. Additionally this planning is nothing short of a first step to the eventual invasion of Taiwan. . . . So lets not make this about 'Trump' and waste energy in a futile defense of his character.
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Dima Bedin
Dima Bedin Sep 01, 2019 9:21AM ET
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Pwr Strk
Pwr Strk Sep 01, 2019 9:21AM ET
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why didn't you just say HONG KONG?
Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 9:21AM ET
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Pwr Strk  Hong Kong rioters are mostly youngsters below 25 years of age, born after 1997 the handover. None of them could remember WWII, British Colonial Rule... under the British, Hong Kong never had democracy and the older generations know it too well. The younger generation should learn of the reality.
Sean Livingstone
Sean Livingstone Sep 01, 2019 9:21AM ET
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Ed Daniels  nope... Mongolia didn't map their conquest. In fact, they used Chinese cartographers to map their conquest in China. You totally neglect history in your analysis. China was far more developed than Mongolia, and that was the reason for the Great Wall, to prevent tribes from conquering China. Mongolia wasn't as technologically advanced as China, and thus Mongols wanted part of that. The fighting spirit won the Mongols their empire, along with their horses. The Mongols in China lost their culture during the Jin Dynasty, and many became Chinese. If you ask around modern Chinese, you could easily find many who said they were formerly Mongols... Zheng Ho was Mongol and Muslim, he wasn't really a Han Chinese, but he claimed Chinese blood for obvious reason.. . You might want to read history.
DOUG DANYLUK
CLASSIC1 Sep 01, 2019 9:21AM ET
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Sean Livingstone  . . . I think we are a bit more informed than you presume Wai.. . . but good try.
Arsalan Ogluu
Arsalan Ogluu Sep 01, 2019 9:12AM ET
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How much US rise the tariffs over chines products the devaluing chines currency by their authority will cover the loses but who only suffer is the US people who is paying more for products use less
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Dima Bedin
Dima Bedin Sep 01, 2019 9:12AM ET
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Ed Daniels Lol, $1000 will pay every “great US household” ( min due to it exclude new extra 5% tariff) this year. That is the cost for customers in us
DOUG DANYLUK
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Al Vlaj  . . . with respect alviaj, You would be well served to ignore the noise and just do the math yourself, . . . As I've previously stated. I have no inclination to make excuses for Trump or Xi and will not be dragged into that tangent, However a push back on China's soft power. economic blackmail and military intimidation is overdue, On this score I NO problem,
Buzzy Jefferson
Buzzy Jefferson Sep 01, 2019 9:12AM ET
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Ed Daniels  Ed is 100% correct. As China devalues the yuan, they dig the same grave all socialist countries put themselves in. It will just take some time. America has more time than China, as we are seeing already.
Jeff Chevalier
Jeff Chevalier Sep 01, 2019 9:12AM ET
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Uh.. nope. The product prices are still the same and in US dollars. The end result is they get more.
Jeff Chevalier
Jeff Chevalier Sep 01, 2019 9:12AM ET
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Where do you think the "tarrif dollars" come from? You! Do not fall into the "the Chinese pay the tarrifs" dream.
DOUG DANYLUK
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Second, terminate the activation of the international 'soft power' and become respectful 'guest' at a minimum of other countries generosity. . . . We really need a new word for Chinese Hypocrisy. . . I will engage in a futile defense of Trump or the arrogant history of the U.S.  But I will ask the question: Does the world really need another bully? The tip of the spear is evident in Chine's tactics and this will lead to war.
David David
David9 Sep 01, 2019 8:56AM ET
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All countries look at US as the bully here. Have you noticed any other countries complaining about China except Trump Nation? US either accepts China's rise and emerging as a World power and play along or whrn China surpassed US, they will leave us behind as they go on to become the biggest economy of modern world.
DOUG DANYLUK
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David David  in fact I and many have noticed other countries complaining about China, . . . Where have you been David? Right - watching alternative news again,,,. . . Please David. with respect - go watch the game :))
Jack Hudson
Jack Hudson Sep 01, 2019 8:56AM ET
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China is decades behind US Military. . . . In order to be a super power one must be able to rain nuclear destrucion anywhere on the earth at any time. Next, they must be able to place overwhelming miiitary force in the hundreds of thousands on enemy soil.. . . Russia has the same Nuclear capabilities of the US and in fact have more Nukes deployed and ready for launch then the US.. . . But Army and Navy combined leave the US on top of all. China is not even close so the last thing they want is war.
Buzzy Jefferson
Buzzy Jefferson Sep 01, 2019 8:56AM ET
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America is the most benevolent and philanthropic nation to ever exist by light years. If we were a bully, the planet would belong to us. At a minimum, Canada, Mexico and Japan would be flying the Stars and Stripes. We certainly could have nuked China and Vietnam back to Stone Age, but didn’t. The world should be thanking God the US wasn’t like the soviets, or what China is trying to be right now.
DOUG DANYLUK
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This 'trade' issue is nothing but a side show. The real agenda being played out here is a long over due push back against an authoritarian regime and its shallow words of 'respect' 'dignity' 'fair play'. . . "The United States should learn how to behave like a responsible global power and stop acting as a 'school bully'," (Xinhua news). . I suggest China start leading by example and withdraw its forces from its illegal occupation of South China Sea Islands and respect the rule of international law that every other nation recognizes, that being a 200 mile economic interest from its shores. No one is fooled by this so called 'red dash' map created as a prelude to the build up of the war plan on Taiwan.
Andrew carson
Andrew carson Sep 01, 2019 7:59AM ET
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To top it off, I've been seeing articles saying the "high level" talks were made up and just more of the same chatter we've been getting.
Bobster Bambino
Bobster Bambino Sep 01, 2019 7:59AM ET
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Trump has no credibility
Junk Man
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Hate is a strong word. I think because of Trump, the whole world does not trust the US. Trump is a win lose negotiator... Sovereign countries will not bow to him... This is how wars are started. Let's hope he does not start one.
Mart Bab
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For those traders who picked up hope from all the positieve messeges last week and got invested. Remember. Remenber. China is never going to strike a deal with the us. Not because they hate the us. But because of the way the us is being representeert by the Trump administration. The so called chosen one is going to reck the worlds economy. The US is going to loose credebility all over the world and loose its world power status. This is all going to get wurse. The only way out of this is to start asking Some serious questions and have matuur conversations about what is going on in the US itself and is Trump really the one you want to put at the head of you country? Or just buy gold, get ritch and watch it burn. Up to you.
Gerald Mejias Rod
Gerald Mejias Rod Sep 01, 2019 6:19AM ET
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Of the ?????
Jae Ung Hwang
Jae Ung Hwang Sep 01, 2019 6:19AM ET
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It's china that lacks credibility.
King Pin
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Both do. It's truly a sad day when US citizens can't trust their president over the Chinese, but that is literally the situation we have today. Trump has shown dozens of times if not hundreds that he cannot be trusted.
Buzzy Jefferson
Buzzy Jefferson Sep 01, 2019 5:19AM ET
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Freedom of navigation in The East Vietnam Sea will continue.
David David
David9 Sep 01, 2019 5:19AM ET
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I have never heard of the East Vietnam Sea. Look at the maps again, 100% it is called The South China Sea.
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Trump want the freedom of navigation on the east vietnam sea. Its interest of america. The sea belong to vietnam thousands ago before china has robbed its in vietnam war 1974
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David David  . . . thanks for the clarity of thought David. . . Would you also argue the Indian Ocean belongs to India?? . . . And David, why is the 9 red dash ancient map produced on a 1982 version map of East Asia??
brad merck
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Gold up , 1600 monday , Us500 down
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