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Pelosi, Mnuchin open door to narrower COVID-19 aid through 2020

Published 08/09/2020, 10:54 AM
Updated 08/09/2020, 11:51 PM
© Reuters. U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), attends a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington

By Susan Heavey and Jeff Mason

WASHINGTON/Morristown, NJ (Reuters) - U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Sunday said they were open to restarting COVID-19 aid talks, after weeks of failed negotiations prompted President Donald Trump to take executive actions that Democrats argued would do little to ease Americans' financial distress.

Discussions over a fifth bill to address the impact of the coronavirus pandemic fell apart on Friday, a week after the expiration of a critical boost in unemployment assistance and eviction protections, exposing people to a wave of economic pain as infections continue to rise across the country.

Trump on Saturday sought to take matters into his own hands, signing executive orders and memorandums aimed at unemployment benefits, evictions, student loans and payroll taxes.

Trump told reporters in New Jersey before returning to Washington on Sunday that his suspension of the collection of the payroll tax could be made permanent. He said doing so would have no impact on Social Security because reimbursement would be made through the general fund.

Trump, noting that Democrats want to resume stimulus discussions, said the White House would be willing to talk to them again "if it's not a waste of time."

Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, called Trump's orders a "series of half-baked measures" and accused him of putting Social Security, the government pension plan for the elderly, "at grave risk" by delaying the collection of payroll taxes that pay for the program.

"This will have zero impact on Social Security," Trump said.

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"It may be permanent, we're looking into it," he added. "We'll take it out till the end of the year and then I'm going to make a decision as to, number one, an extension, and number two, make it permanent and no reimbursement."

Trump's move came as the number of U.S. cases of COVID-19 rose past 5 million. More than 160,000 Americans have died. Trump's orders also raised questions about the legality of bypassing Congress' constitutional powers to tax and spend.

On Sunday, both Pelosi and Mnuchin appeared willing to consider a narrower deal that would extend some aid until the end of the year, and then revisit the need for more federal assistance in January. That would come after November's election, which could rebalance power in Washington.

"Let's pass legislation on things that we agree on," Mnuchin told Fox News in an interview. "We don't have to get everything done at once. ... What we should do is get things done for the American public now, come back for another bill afterwards."

Pelosi dismissed Trump's orders as unconstitutional and "illusions" that would not quickly or directly help Americans. She said separately to "Fox News Sunday" that a deal between congressional Democrats and the White House was essential.

"Right now, we need to come to agreement," she said, adding that Democrats could shorten the length of time aid is provided in order to bring the bill's costs down closer to the Trump administration's proposal.

"We could talk about how long our provisions would be in effect, so we can take things down -- instead of the end of September of next year, a shorter period of time -- and we'll revisit all of it next year anyway," said Pelosi, whose fellow Democrats control the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Mnuchin appeared open to consider the idea, telling Fox: "Anytime they have a new proposal, I am willing to listen."

$2 TRILLION GAP

The House passed a $3.4 trillion coronavirus support package in May that the Republican-led Senate ignored for weeks before putting forward a $1 trillion counteroffer.

Democrats, pushing hard to keep a $600 per week unemployment benefit, which is a supplement to state jobless payments, and deliver more funds to cash-strapped states and cities battered by the pandemic, had offered to meet Republicans halfway to close the $2 trillion gap -- a move the White House rejected.

On Sunday, Mnuchin urged lawmakers to accept the money the administration was willing to lay out now to help schools reopen, boost local coffers and help the jobless, even if it fell short of Democrats' goals.

While it remained unclear whether there would be formal legal challenges to Trump's orders, some legal and tax experts said his actions took few concrete steps to provide immediate relief.

"It's basically nothing," Josh Blackman, a professor at the South Texas College of Law, said of Trump's move directing his Cabinet to look at the issue of evictions.

Trump's memo on unemployment aid did not extend benefits under the current system, but instead authorized a separate system that would have to be paid for in part by the states, which are already struggling to pay benefits amid a wave joblessness not seen since the Great Depression.

White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told CNN on Sunday it was unclear how states would come up with the additional money, while Mnuchin on Fox said, "They can either take that out of the money we've already given them or the president can waive that."

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Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, vice chair of the National Governors Association, said states cannot afford to pay 25% of unemployment costs as outlined by the president. "It's simply impossible," Cuomo wrote on Twitter.

Trump's memo calling on companies to defer withholding payroll taxes changed the deadline for when such taxes were due but did not eliminate them. It would rely on employers' compliance and does not help Americans who are out of work.

A fourth memo allowed borrowers to defer payments on student loans.

Pelosi declined to say whether Democrats would challenge the legality of Trump's actions in court.

Latest comments

The Dems wanted to fuel their agenda again instead of the needs of the people.
Nancy was pushing more money for the people but for some reason trump managed to make pelosi look bad on this one
What ever happened to we'll do whatever it takes?
Meet in the exact middle, guys 'n gals: $500/week, and 1.999T since the donald didn't want to do more than 2. -- Now he can't turn his back on that and he HAS TO agree. Easy peazy ;)   __ Of course the DEMS have to legally block trump on all his executive bills he just signed, so the compromise can go thru.
not true....
Begging back already Nancy. She's so sad!
None of you guys realize Trump’s EOs contain no legal binding.
FYI to Reuters: Increased cases with relatively stable mortality rates and hospitalizations is a GOOD thing. Increased cases by itself is meaningless without the context of how (if at all) it is impacting mortality rates and hospitalizations. For countless years, herd immunity was the most important factor in overcoming viruses. All of a sudden, it doesn’t matter any more.
Dems wanted to dig a pit for Trump by giving no choice other than accepting their bitter offer. Trump does a brilliant comeback with the EO and in the process throws the Dems in the pit. Now the Dems are faced negotiating themselves out of the pit. Good for inclusion in PoliSci textbooks. Dems seem to have been placed in a load of manure at this point and will lose the house due to greed.
 -- well said
Nope....
 Could not have said it better my self.....Good Job Lisa......
Trump is a clear and present danger to the United States of America.
thanks for announcing your arrival
Joe Blittersdorf -- Yes, educate yourself about the 64 signs of emotional abuse. Trump was emotionally abused as a child and all his life he has been passing onto society those same types of mean_ness_nesses as he received as a child. It comes out ultimately as devisive and racist, to name a few of his badnesses. In the end he CAN NEVER BE REVOTED IN because he would just continue to make AMERICA no good again or would make it as bad again as it ever was. -- Since his 4 yr old mind can not adapt to current events he wants status quo to prevail so that he does not need to change, because changing/getting better is way out of his intellectual ball park, he simply can not wrap his mind around what is now. so how could he make any changes for the better. if you can not understand the now u can not understand tomorrow either. sounds silly but that is how he is. All he can do is continue the path he has been on, which all of us know is out of the question.
tell "the Ripper" we ain't passing no 2,000 page bill, just so we can see what's in it!
Trump made rhe most brilliant move since the travel ban in the beginning of the pandemic. Democrsts couldnt get it right, so he fixed it. And if Dems challenge it in court (which he is counting on) voters will be saying, "wait a sec, so now you're against covid relief?"Makes him look great even to dems, and the Dem congress look like a holes. They may lose the house too if they bring it to court. Trump is a genius you just need to learn how he thinks.
There is so much division in the Congress. not good for the country.
8.1% of all mortgages are in forbearance now and the moratorium on evictions won't allow landlords to make bank payments. Mnuchin is the foreclosure king so I think whatever happens in the next stimulus will be designed to cause additional foreclosures, they must be drooling at the prospect of buying a lot of properties on the cheap after the election.
An easy tweek for Dens would be to go 600 plus until the end of the year Trump left them room to claim they helped .
Either they make a deal or Trump's bills come into effect. Either way the US citizens benefit. Trump's actions was just a push to get things done either way. But I agree that there will be a new deal this week from dems and that they will compromise and there will be no need for Trump's measures.
"Trump's bills"? Only Congress makes bills. Not the president. (Although I guess it's understandable to be confused, since Trump himself, mistakenly interchanged the words "bills" and "executive orders" a few times). Not surprising, however, since he believes his presidential powers are growing by the day, and is pretty ignorant of the Constitution anyway.
dems are late to the party 🤣. Trump already fixed problem
Well, unfortunately he did not! Nobody is receiving anything just yet!
They have to make a deal. The money in the emergency fund is enough for a few weeks only.
for two months, to be exact!
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