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Stocks May Have Run Ahead of Themselves Again

Published 10/28/2022, 04:20 AM
Updated 09/20/2023, 06:34 AM
  • Stocks sharply higher in October on hopes Fed will slow the pace of rate hikes
  • At some point, the pace of rate hikes will slow
  • Tough to find where Fed is pivoting from and where it is pivoting to
  • Another week, another hope of some sort of pivot by the US Federal Reserve. This game has been playing consistently in the equity market for most of this year. Many of the big rallies in 2022 have been tied to this Fed pivot narrative. Yet, each time the Fed has pushed back on the market while it continues to raise rates.

    This October rally followed hopes the Fed may start to reduce the size of its rate hikes.

    It seems to be common sense that the Fed will, at some point, cut the size of its hikes. Historically, a 75 basis point (bp) hike was rare; even a 50 bp hike is uncommon. So, yes, it seems evident that the US central bank will, at some point, reduce the size of rate hikes.

    Traders expect the Fed to hike rates 75 bp in November. The Fed has also made it clear through the summary of economic projections (SEP) that it expects to have interest rates of 4.4% by the end of this year. Currently, the market is pricing in 5.3 rate hikes between now and the end of the year. That would be a 75 bp rate hike in November and either a 50 or 75 bps rate hike in December.

    US Interest Rate Projections

    Where’s The Pivot?

    Currently, the Fed Funds rate ranges from 3 to 3.25%. A 75 bp hike next month would move the rate from 3.75% to 4%, while a 50 bp hike would take it to a range of 4.25% to 4.5%. That would put it right into the field of the Fed's target. It seems hard to find a pivot here.

    The worry may be that the Fed may push rates higher than that 4.25% to 4.5% range, and given the stronger-than-expected CPI report for September, that is possible. But given that the Fed doesn't have the October CPI report to hand, it is hard to imagine it will indicate language to suggest it will slow the pace of hikes and instead stick to some form of data dependency. It could even signal that, given the hotter-than-expected September CPI, rates need to be above those outlined in the SEP.

    Stocks Running Ahead Of Themselves

    Again, this leaves the market hoping for something that may not even exist—a place for the Fed to pivot from or to. This means that markets, like the S&P 500, have run likely ahead of themselves for no good reason because, ultimately, nothing has changed. The Fed appears to be on pace to hit its year-end target.

    S&P Daily

    Where the risk lies for the markets and the Fed is the inflation data for October. If that report is hotter than expected, one could argue for another 75 bp hike. But at this point, it seems the stock market continues to play the same game and one that it has yet to win.

    This time may prove to be no different.

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Latest comments

Mike usually calls the short term bottom with his infantile analysis
ultimately nothing has changed - check crude 🤣
lol, guy is as bad as cramer. go and read wsj fed mouth piece.
Ridiculous to say stocks are higher only because of "pivot hopes" ignoring all the positives this week
Your article while hitting on valid points seems untimely given today's robust move.
OMG Kramer you have a lot of explaining to do to your blind perma bear followers. Well at least is an eye opener and learning experience for some of them.
Yeah, honestly he missed this week by a mile, but you have to admit he was hitting the last 3 months pretty well. Nobody is going to be 100%, and no way I would go long on the market now....I will sit back a bit and see if things normalize
Ya he hit the last few months right after being wrong for 9 years
 agree.  he's been spot on for the last 3 months, good analysis to trade on but hard to understand.  what he writes makes sense but there is the market shooting up.   Mike Wilson said he expected a rally to SP4200 by years end.  I guess the data doesnt matter to a lot of folks.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Let me guess another fake pump?
Another disappointing day for bears. Where are those Fib levels again!!! Hahaha
With such a strong economy, continuing huge interest rate hikes should be no problem. Another disappointment for the Fed pivot crowd.
🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Sharply higher? ahahahhahah
With unemployment at record lows Fed won't pivot soon.. maybe when it reaches 5% with massive lay-offs
Even if the federal bank pivots stocks will keep going down. Only when gold reaches $640, stocks will bottom
Highly doubt gold will tank to $640, that would be -60%
gold is not tethered to equities.
money supply increased more than 30% in 2 years, how on earth could gold crash to 640?
Until the Fed really does pivot we may continue to see the rallies being sold to even lower lows.
There is no law saying fed has to "pivot" for stocks to go up. There is no 1/1 correlation between intrest rates and equities.
Your first mistake is thinking the rally is purely driven by fed speculation which it is not. I think everyone has a pretty good handle on what the fed says they are doing. Maybe dont believe investing.com headlines? Market down on fed fear monday. Market down on fed hope Tuesday. Market down again on Fed fear Wednesday. We have been getting this everyday the last 8 months
The fact that investing.com spins some BS excuse AFTER the facts does not mean that market is not in fear, and it doesn't mean those BS reasons are the correct ones for the fear/fomo. Market is pretty much near maximum emotional bias, any flimsy positive number makes it pump when oversold, any continuation of bad news makes it lose all that flimsy pump. Tell me again this is not emotional.
you are looking at markets from your own point of view, and project your own hopes and fears to it. machine learning algorithms do not feel anything. on the contrary they use these emotions to move the markets opposite
Smartest comment I've seen in some time.
Never know until next week look at Canada and Australia and uk but when you think it must go down then I will long next week
expecting no pivoting talk by the Fed next week, agree
And you bears are just guessing that it will be a 75bps hike and not a 50bps in November!! You are also suggesting that it could be another 75bps in December. So how are you any different than the bulls hoping for a pivot from the fed? You aren't. You are guessing as well. Market is down 25% this year. Been a Terri market all year for bulls. Eventually this flips and you better hope you're long when it does.
Bears are working with FUD. No different than the bulls. Let's get real. Market is all about emotions. Nothing more.
chatter in my group is .75 .5 .5.....then we have blackrock comments to consider as well.
75 is priced in a surprise won't be likely. there is a high probability of 50 in dec. how markets react to this we will se next week after FOMC. but markets will decide, it does not matter what we think. period.
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