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Top-level U.S.-China trade talks resume as irritants sour atmosphere

Stock Markets Oct 10, 2019 09:37AM ET
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© Reuters. U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin greets China's Vice Premier Liu He

By David Lawder

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States' and China's top trade negotiators met on Thursday for the first time since late July to try to find a way out of a 15-month trade war as new irritants between the world's two largest economies threatened hopes for progress.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer greeted Chinese Vice Premier Liu He on the steps of the USTR office before a meeting in which they will seek to narrow differences enough to avoid a scheduled Oct. 15 tariff rate increase on $250 billion worth of Chinese goods.

But the atmosphere surrounding the talks was soured by the U.S. Commerce Department's decision on Monday to blacklist 28 Chinese public security bureaus, technology and surveillance firms, citing human rights violations of Muslim minority groups in China's Xinjiang province. A day later, the U.S. State Department imposed visa restrictions on Chinese officials related to the Xinjiang issue.

If negotiations break down again, by Dec. 15, nearly all Chinese goods imports into the United States -- more than $500 billion -- could be subject to punitive tariffs in the dispute that erupted during U.S. President Donald Trump's time in office.

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said in Sydney on Thursday that the tariffs were working, forcing Beijing to pay attention to U.S. concerns about its trade practices.

"We do not love tariffs - in fact we would prefer not to use them - but after years of discussions and no action, tariffs are finally forcing China to pay attention to our concerns," Ross said in remarks prepared for delivery on an official visit to Australia.

Although some media reports suggested both sides are considering an "interim" deal that would suspend planned further U.S. tariffs in exchange for additional purchases of American farm products, Trump has repeatedly dismissed this idea, insisting that he wants a "big deal" with Beijing that addresses core intellectual property issues.

Speaking to reporters in Washington on Wednesday, Trump said: "If we can make a deal, we're going to make a deal, there's a really good chance."

"In my opinion China wants to make a deal more than I do," Trump added.

The two sides have been at loggerheads over U.S. demands that China improve protections of American intellectual property, end cyber theft and the forced transfer of technology to Chinese firms, curb industrial subsidies and increase U.S. companies' access to largely closed Chinese markets.

LOWERED EXPECTATIONS

But Chinese officials, surprised and upset by the U.S. blacklisting of Chinese companies, including video surveillance gear maker Hikvision, along with the suspension of U.S. visas for some Chinese officials, told Reuters that Beijing had lowered expectations for significant progress from the talks.

"I've never seen China respond with concessions to someone throwing down the gauntlet in this manner," said Scott Kennedy, a China trade expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "It suggests to me that the U.S. may have determined that progress was impossible so everyone is just going through the motions."

Other flashpoints that have cropped up in recent days include China's swift action to cut corporate ties to the National Basketball Association over a team official's tweet in support of Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters.

But in a possible easing of tensions, The New York Times reported that the Trump administration will soon issue licenses allowing some U.S. companies to sell non-sensitive goods to China's top telecom equipment maker Huawei Technologies.

The report cited unnamed people familiar with the matter. A Commerce Department spokesman said the agency has been given no such direction. Huawei since May has been on the same trade blacklist affecting Hikvision because the United States says the company can spy on customers - an allegation Huawei denies.

Top-level U.S.-China trade talks resume as irritants sour atmosphere
 

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Peter Dikeakos
Peter Dikeakos Oct 10, 2019 12:06PM ET
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I think this fellow , Robert Lighthizer is a sot, as bad as I !
Bin John
Bin John Oct 10, 2019 8:42AM ET
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US want Chocking chinese USD liquidity......China want next president, not Trump.......I think they don't want to make a deal now.
Kevyn Cheah
Kevyn Cheah Oct 10, 2019 7:59AM ET
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Chinese will never reveal their true colors. On the other hand they hav 5000 years of trade experience!! Bravo
gm mit
gm mit Oct 10, 2019 7:22AM ET
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"erupted during Trump presidency". So tired of the anti America/Trump bias in the fake news. China has been eating our lunch for decades.
Mike Roland
Mike Roland Oct 10, 2019 7:22AM ET
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the States have always been bullies entering every conflict in the world by clandestine means or direct invadion for more than a century and now have a huge bully with no diplomacy.. so good that trumpy is being stood up to
Stephen Fa
Stephen Fa Oct 10, 2019 7:22AM ET
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We've been serving China our lunch. Time to raise the menu prices.
Nate Hill
Nate Hill Oct 10, 2019 7:22AM ET
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That is an understatement. We alone with a few other G-7 have made them into a superpower by lending them our expertise, investment experts, american built factories and in the process access to borrow, or take anything they want without asking. And then more money by buying all the stuff they make with what they take. Will the buck of responsibility finally stop after 40 years? Unfortunately even some the shoes we buy, that are now even made of recycled burned rubber stink.
Nate Hill
Nate Hill Oct 10, 2019 7:22AM ET
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Mike Roland  The US has been in a losing trade war for at 30 yrs with China... where and why?...so we could ship all our inflation and pollution overseas. We have paid the ultimate price so both of our political parties wouldn't have either of those two items on their backs for the next election after election after election. And now we as a country are looking at the results of trying to beat a sumo wrestler when we haven't been working out at the gym with 15 hr day work weeks like it does. While 75% our nation is on a short caffiene-backed work week, retired, or some whats left is using meth which made from raw supplies shipped to the Mexican Mafia by China at hideouts along the Yucatan coastline regularly. What can you say, its almost funny...but it absolutely isn't.
Sun The Great
Sun The Great Oct 10, 2019 6:05AM ET
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Can't we just throw them into the dungeon or whatever ... and have them talk 24/7 until they reach an agreement ?
chris cp
chris75 Oct 10, 2019 5:44AM ET
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Once again, another round of false hope.  The Chinese delegates just earned their five-star hotel stays and their first-class air tickets home on Friday.  What an entertainment.
Anno Pan
Anno Pan Oct 10, 2019 5:44AM ET
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Will you enjoy the 5 star hotel stay while there is risk to your life?
Bade Sahib
Bade Sahib Oct 10, 2019 4:53AM ET
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Reuters and Bloomberg no sources all fake news
Luu Hung
Luu Hung Oct 10, 2019 3:56AM ET
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Not sour. It's sweet
Lara Kiri
Lara Kiri Oct 10, 2019 3:36AM ET
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The only agreement they may find is the date of the next round of talks.
raouf chaabini
raouf chaabini Oct 10, 2019 3:36AM ET
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China  will  NEVER  capitulate to  Trump,  Specially now that  he  is  so  much  weaker  than  ever .  I  mean ,  why  would  they  make  a  deal  now  when  there  is a  better  possibility  later ,  after  his  impeachment  or  a  new  democratic  president .
 
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