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'No landing' creeps into hard vs. soft landing debate, stoking volatility concerns

Published 02/11/2023, 09:12 AM
Updated 02/11/2023, 09:37 AM
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By Yasin Ebrahim

Investing.com -- As the debate persists on whether the Fed will be able to engineer a ‘soft landing,’ bringing down inflation without a major economic bump, or a ‘hard landing’, hiking too much tipping the economy into recession, a third scenario is making its way into the conversation: ‘No Landing.’

In a ‘no landing’ scenario, the U.S. economy doesn’t slow down. Inflation remains above-trend. And the Federal Reserve is forced to not only hike rates by more than expected, but keep them elevated for longer.

The prevailing uncertainty from this scenario isn’t likely to prove fertile ground for risk assets to flourish.

The no landing scenario risks bringing back the “volatile market action we saw in 2022 because it reintroduces uncertainty about inflation and about the Fed,” Torsten Slok at Apollo Management said in a report.

The “blowout” January jobs report, Morgan Stanley says, has played a big role in stoking “discussion around the possibility of a ‘no landing’ scenario.”

The recent jobs report – showing robust job gains and a drop in the unemployment rate to 3.4%, a five-decade low – dealt a blow on bets for a near-term recession, but also flagged worries about upside risks to inflation that would likely spur the Fed to go further on rate hikes and keep policy tighter for much longer.

“[T]he more resilient the economy is, the more the Fed has to chase,” Morgan Stanley added, though stuck with its base case for a soft landing.

Traders are currently pricing in at least one more quarter point hike, while the odds for a May rate hike are gaining traction, according to Investing.com’s Fed Rate Monitor Tool.

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But the risk is “this tightening cycle is not just about one more, two more, three more 25 basis-point increases, but something more fundamental,” Former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers said in a Bloomberg interview, citing upside risks to inflation.

Right now, however, investors continue to believe in the goldilocks, or soft-landing scenario – that has helped risk assets make a strong start to year, notwithstanding the wobble in S&P 500 this week.

“Our long-standing call that the US economy would experience a soft landing this year has become consensus, Morgan Stanley said, adding that a ‘no landing’ scenario, while not clearly defined, most resembles a soft landing.

“Our conversations suggest the phrase isn’t clearly defined and tends to gloss over the policy implications, but seems to most closely resemble a soft landing,” it added.

Still, a stickier path for inflation at a time when markets are betting against the Fed, albeit with far less resolve than in prior months, and the central bank has been keen to highlight that the disinflation process has started, would risk the Fed’s credibility and spur fresh uncertainty.

“That would put the Fed in a really difficult position,” Zhiwei Ren, Managing Director and Portfolio Manager at Penn Mutual Asset Management told Investing.com's Yasin Ebrahim on Tuesday.

"The Fed is now talking about disinflation, but in a few months if we get higher inflation, they may have to change their rhetoric again, and that will affect their credibility,” Ren added. “I think that's the biggest risk.”

There are already signs emerging that the disinflation, driven mainly in the goods sector, may prove transitory.

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Used-car prices unexpectedly climbed 2.5% last month, the most since the end of 2021, though that was driven by unseasonably strong demand, according to Cox Automotive.

Still a ‘no landing’ scenario will likely continue to creep into the conversation concerning the outlook for the economy as data in the coming days is expected to show a resilient consumer and price pressures that are on the up, and up.

“Fed-fighters haven’t been faring so well of late and they might not find much love in this week’s developments either,” Scotiabank Economics said.

“US headline CPI inflation is likely to spring higher, core inflation is expected to remain resilient and markets may have to reassess how they prematurely wrote-off the US consumer at the start of the year as we brace for a strong retail sales print,” it added.

Latest comments

This is coming from all the younger crowd that has been trying to convince markets that economic conditions and forecasts should not keep the market from going straight up. I am starting to hear the words hedge fund more and more.
inflation isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Hard, soft or raw like eggs would have been better names. How would you like your market cooked, sir?
What a horrible analogy lmao
scrambled eggs 🥚 seems to be at fed buffet every Monday thru Thursday, 8am.
When making decisions on the accounting rate, the Federal Reserve System is looking for a new way to reduce the Nasdaq index and instability in the Euroop.
Later, it will be New Landing and after that a Curious Landing. Just filling space
how long can rates stay higher with 33 trillion in debt? it's a doom loop....higher rates, more money in a diminishing tax base going to service debt, more unemployment, less gov services/benefits....or let up on rates and inflation stays high and more taxes that way. either way, the economy is now a zombie.
Powell keeps hiking but the Bond market is calling BS on that as the 10 yr.  still deeply inverted.
33 T in debt. Def. running well over a tril.  The debt ceiling has become a bad joke at this point.  The world knows we're a broke banana republic.  Might as well go full burn as we follow Romes path.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. It is either a currency crisis or a liquidity crisis. Pick your poison and place your bets accordingly
fear mongering. Apollo must have some heavy shorts on
I'm sir Lanka
Hi
sick & tired of pop-up ad baiting at ChatGPT. A useless junk.
charGpt is basically popup-ad baiting, a useless junk.
You probably have to pay for add free. This place had a terrible bot problem that they seemed to have fixed
Rigged
 "Laid Off Tech Workers Quickly Find New Jobs - Openings across the economy are down from highs but far exceed the number of unemployed Americans" --  www.wsj.com/articles/laid-off-tech-workers-quickly-find-new-jobs-11672097730
 most western nations have large babyboomer segments that have retired, are retiring or will be retiring in the next 5 years - this is taking large numbers of workers from the employment roles section to the leisure consumption side - which is why so many in gov. leadership have floated raising the retirement pensioning ages to 67/70/75 to try an keep more workers in the workforce, another factor making this worse is the reduced family sizes over the last 4 decades leading to not enough workers coming into the workforce in every area of employment leading to needing more immigration just to fill current need not even factoring the next decade -  local employers who pay minimum wage simply can't hire unless they pay a 20-30 % premium in our area and if your a poorly led business they can move on at will - good for improving general employee treatment attitudes - the GOP deserve everything they get go build your wall just don't expect anyone to come change your bedpan in 5/10/20 years
very good analysis
stagflation and a sideways market is a real possibility
When have those not been a possibility?  When has there been no perma-bear?
Its most peoples natural reaction to fear the worst that's why they lose money buying and selling at the wrong time. Be thankful our profits have to come from somewhere
Everyone worrying about this everyday analyzing every little thing hanging on the feds every word should be disgusted with themselves. Leave investing to the people who have the stomach for it
investing has little to do with stomach and everything to do with picking good companies and quality etf's in areas you don't feel you have competencies. Have a time frame and take advantage of the every decade crisis with reasonable margin exposure at the bottoms (exploit buffett's be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy - buffett's been adding which means we are likely closer to the bottom than the next top) - when things run good take some profit close the exposure and wait for the next crisis - repeat
Yes but what about the debt ceiling?
You have until June but call it the end of May to be safe before the retrumpcucklicians ruin the countrys credit rating out of pure spite
retrumplicans trying to bring the country's credit worthiness down to their level
  They are going for "Party before country"
In my country I can say I feel some kind of recession
Excellent article
Great piece, Yasin. Let the landing ... or none ... begin! :)
Fun with words…. Just like fun with numbers… always remember this: “Figures don’t lie, but liars always figure” so ask yourself who are you getting your advice from?
What advice is the article giving?
Soft landing is a tale for feebleminded, and naturally it finds the most receptive audience.
We cannot all have the superior acumen of Warm Camp.
 Everyone is a wizard, comparing with Brandon Aldim.
You're just another scared stiff paranoid investor
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