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U.S.-China trade talks extended amid some signs of progress

Published 01/08/2019, 06:18 PM
© Reuters. FILE PHOTO: Shipping containers are seen at a port in Shanghai

By Dominique Patton and David Lawder

BEIJING/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and China will continue trade talks in Beijing for an unscheduled third day, U.S. officials said on Tuesday amid signs of progress on issues including purchases of U.S. farm and energy commodities and increased access to China's markets.

People familiar with the talks said the world's two largest economies were further apart on Chinese structural reforms that the Trump administration is demanding in order to stop alleged theft and forced transfer of U.S. technology and on how to hold Beijing to its promises.

"Talks with China are going very well!" U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted without elaborating, as talks wound down late on Tuesday evening in Beijing.

Steven Winberg, assistant secretary for Fossil Energy at the U.S. Department of Energy, told reporters in Beijing that the talks, which began on Monday, had gone well.

"I confirm we're continuing tomorrow, yes," Winberg said, declining to answer further questions.

This week's meetings are the first face-to-face talks since U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping agreed in December to a 90-day truce in a trade war that has roiled global financial markets.

Trump is increasingly eager to reach an agreement to help lift the markets, Bloomberg reported, citing people familiar with internal White House deliberations. The S&P 500 Index has fallen about 8 percent since the truce began.

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Trade Representative's office, which is leading the U.S. negotiating team, said talks would continue on Wednesday and "a statement will likely follow then."

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TARIFF PROFIT PAIN

If no deal is reached by March 2, Trump has said he will proceed with raising tariffs to 25 percent from 10 percent on $200 billion worth of Chinese imports at a time when China's economy is slowing significantly.

In the meantime, companies in both countries are feeling pain from the effects of U.S. tariffs and retaliation from China, which are starting to mount.

El Paso, Texas-based Helen of Troy Ltd (O:HELE), a maker of consumer products from OXO kitchen utensils to Braun shavers, cut its sales and gross margin outlooks on Tuesday laid some of the blame on U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods, which make up 70 percent of the company's cost of products sold.

Helen of Troy stock fell nearly 13 percent, the largest one-day drop in more than six years.

"Tariff increases began to impact our cost of goods sold during the third quarter,” Helen of Troy Chief Financial Officer Brian Grass told investors on a conference call that featured 27 mentions of the words "tariff" or "tariffs". While the company is trying to offset tariffs through price increases, "that doesn't mean we'll be 100 percent successful."

A week ago, Apple Inc (O:AAPL) rattled global markets by cutting its own sales outlook, blaming weak demand in China.

SEEDS OF PROGRESS

In what is widely seen as a goodwill gesture, China on Tuesday issued long-awaited approvals for the import of five genetically modified crops, which could boost its purchases of U.S. grains as farmers decide which crops to plant in the spring.

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On Monday, Chinese importers made another large purchase of U.S. soybeans, their third in the past month.

Increased purchases by China of U.S. soybeans, oil, liquefied natural gas and financial services are viewed as easier to achieve than major changes to China's industrial policies aimed at transferring U.S. technology to Chinese firms.

"Overall the talks have been constructive. Our sense is that there's good progress on the purchase piece," said one person familiar with the talks. The person added that it was more difficult to determine how to hold China to its commitments to better protect intellectual property.

Scott Kennedy, director of the Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said the two sides for the first time were discussing topics that matter most to the Trump administration. These include expanded Chinese purchases of American products, greater protections for U.S. intellectual property, constraints on Chinese industrial policy, and enforcement and verification of follow-through by China.

"The minimum baseline for judging whether this week is a success is whether they can have an in-depth conversation on those areas," Kennedy said, adding that an announcement of another round of talks would be a positive outcome.

Latest comments

China isn't stupid.. Trump being Mr. Big shot provocating China is not smart. If the US doesn't sign with China a reasonable deal for both sides, US economy will also tank. The biggest companies in US are beating profits by manufacturing things in China that provides low cost but good quality ( relatively to ages ago). There isn't any country that can completely replace this even if US went shopping else where for manufacturing. So unless Trump wants people in the US to pay three times as much for anything manufactured in US, China will be the winner of these negotiations.
There are too many wants from Trump. I don't think China can agree. Perhaps they will try to postpone as much as they can and wait for a next president.
it seems more serious...
talk continuation is no good...
This only means one thing; why the discussion is extended to one more day: They are STILL in disagreement. If this persists/no consensus is found, markets are going to get hammered again. By and if that happens, dead cat bounce is confirmed. ;D
meanwhile mr kim is in China. hummm... will he join the table?
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