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S&P 500: Rally to 4800 in the Cards?

Published 10/09/2023, 03:15 PM
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Those who read my articles regularly know that over the past month, we have been tracking an Elliott Wave Principle (EWP) impulse move (five grey waves W-i, ii, iii, iv, and v) lower from the September 4 high.

“…to ideally $4270+/-10, respectively. The latter target zone is also where green W-c equals the length of green W-a, measured from the green W-b (September 4) high. A typical c=a relationship. Moreover, it is also where the (red) 76.40% extension of red W-i resides (see Figure 1 below).”

We followed up on that prognostication two weeks ago, see here, when we found

“…the market’s waves decided to extend. … orange W-4 to around $4370+/10, followed by an orange W-5 down to ideally $4280+/-10, etc. Alternatively, the index completed the grey W-iii at today’s low and is now in grey W-iv, followed by only one last 5th wave lower to $4270-4230 … before the decline from the September 4 high can be considered complete.

Figure 1. Daily SPX chart with detailed EWP count and technical indicatorsSPX-Daily Chart

Fast forward, and the orange W-4 underwhelmed as it only reached $4303, which caused the orange W-5 to exceed and drop to $4238 to complete the grey W-iii. From there, a bounce to $4333 (grey W-iv) and last week’s decline to $4216 (grey W-v) materialized. Thus, the impulse move lower was slightly less than ideal, but all five waves are accounted for. Moreover, the cash index came within spitting distance of the 1.236x W-a Fibonacci extension at $4205, while the Futures Market (ES_F) bottomed at $4204 on October 4. As always, all we can do is

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  • Anticipate: five-wave decline with a c=a relationship targeting ~$4270.
  • Monitor: five waves are unfolding but are also extending.
  • Adjust: due to the extension; the W-c=1.236x W-a relationship is the next logical target.

Thus, based on the EWP, our primary expectations for lower prices in a five-wave sequence a month ago came to fruition. We have been tracking the completion of this impulse decline since the September 4 high over the last weeks and confirmed that by Friday’s move back to the late September bounce high. Now, the SPX must move above at least last Friday’s $4324 high to strongly suggest the red W-iv low is in place and the rally to $4800 has started.

However, if the index drops below last week’s low, we must shift our focus. Namely below the previous week’s low, and especially $4165, will bring the current alternate EWP count, green W-4, 5 of red W-iii of black W-1 of blue W-C, back to the forefront. See Figure 2 below.

Figure 2. Daily SPX chart with detailed EWP count and technical indicatorsSPX-Daily Chart

Why? That strongly indicates that the blue W-B topped this summer at $4607. The W-C will bring the S&P500 to around the mid-$2000s. See the green, red, and black dotted path in Figure 2 above. Again, until proven, this remains our alternative. Thus, once again, we have our parameters to determine where the index will go. The market is now getting one more (final) test: was Friday’s rally green W-4 or not? If it passes, then $4800 will be next. If it fails, then the low $4000s are next.

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Latest comments

Thanks for the explanation Dr. Schure.  I have been following your articles for few months now and find your prediction to be really good. Hope to learn more from your articles.
Very good!
thank you!
I understand.
awesome!
"Friday’s $4324 high to strongly suggest the red W-iv low is in place and the rally to $4800 has started." Since it closed today at $4335, above 4324 obviously, does that mean the rally to $4800 has started or is that so small to be reliable and it can still go to 2000?
The rally has started and I will tell you why. Just look at the big mega cap stocks in the Nasdaq. The Magnificent Seven , plus NFLX, 5 nearly 30% of the Nasdaq and about 28% of the S&P 500. Those stocks are leading this rally and their technical charts are screaming buy or about to scream buy in the 2 or 3 weeks. With that said, you have to look at good entry points, when stocks are in uptrend, look to buy on the dip when the daily RSI is about 0.4. Note - this doesn't work in a downtrend. When you start seeing higher highs and higher lows on the daily and the RSI stays above 0.4, you know you are in uptrend. Don't get off until the trend line is broken or you have reached your target. Remember, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughter.
Also, 2000 is probably in the future, but we are many, many moons away from that now.Somewhere beyond 2025.
Kris, yes, the market has now told us by moving already above 4324 yesterday that it most likely would like to target 4800. But it will not be a straight line, of course. Many waves to get there.
up down or sideways u say lololoo
You don't get it
 correct. People who state the "so you say it can go up or down" therewith simply and actually show how uneducated they are about the markets.
i do not trade EWP but i do often take your work into account and appreciate your knowledge, thank you.
thank you!
I don't see why if the rally to 4800 fails it has to go all the way down to the 2000's that seems a little ridiculous. It could go to 4000 or 4100 then back up after that. There has to be some middle ground there.
No there is no middle ground.
let me do my analysis to: of the index go up it will go up but if it goes down the market will go down. there. easy
let us know when you can do better. only then can you come back and provide none-constructive comments. I am also sorry to learn you can't read comprehensively and have very limited if any understanding of how markets work and how to use the mentioned price levels for your trading.
so whether it goes down or up, this guy will always claim, I told you so
No, that's not at all what it is about. My ego has nothing to do with it. All I provide are cut-n-dry parameters to tell you what to look for if the market breaks above or below these price levels.One must always have a contingency plan in trading, but I can repeat that in every single update but most will never learn.
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