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Witnesses in Trump election meddling probe may have lied under oath -grand jury

Published Feb 16, 2023 06:03AM ET Updated Feb 17, 2023 04:52PM ET
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© Reuters. FILE PHOTO: Former U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a rally at Florence Regional Airport in Florence, South Carolina, U.S., March 12, 2022. REUTERS/Randall Hill/File Photo

By Joseph Ax

(Reuters) -Some witnesses may have lied under oath during a grand jury probe of former President Donald Trump's efforts to overturn his 2020 election defeat in Georgia, according to excerpts from the panel's findings released on Thursday.

The special grand jury also concluded there was no widespread fraud in the election, despite Trump's false claims that the vote was rigged against him, and delivered recommendations to prosecutors on possible indictments for election interference, the document showed.

Those charging recommendations - along with the bulk of the report - remain sealed for now, pursuant to a judge's order, leaving open the question of whether Trump or anyone else could eventually face prosecution.

Trump, who is seeking the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, was not subpoenaed as a witness and did not appear before the grand jury, his lawyers have said.

Among the 75 witnesses who gave sworn testimony were close Trump allies such as lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Republican U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, as well as top Georgia officials including Republican Governor Brian Kemp.

"A majority of the Grand Jury believes that perjury may have been committed by one or more witnesses testifying before it," the report said, adding that prosecutors should consider appropriate charges.

Graham told Reuters when asked about the report's reference to possible perjury: "I'll leave that up to them to figure it out. I'm confident of what I said."

The excerpts released on Thursday - just five pages in all - did not name any specific witnesses or accuse any individuals of crimes.

"The long awaited important sections of the Georgia report, which do not even mention President Trump's name, have nothing to do with the President because President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong," Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesperson, said in a statement.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney in a Monday order said the report included "a roster of who should (or should not) be indicted." But the judge ruled those details would stay secret for now out of concern that people named have not had an adequate opportunity to defend themselves.

Perjury in Georgia is punishable by imprisonment of one to 10 years.

Steve Sadow, an Atlanta criminal defense attorney, said perjury is typically charged in connection with other crimes. The grand jury's finding shows "there's something that in fact went on and people are covering it up or attempting to cover it up."

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis opened an investigation shortly after Trump's January 2021 phone call to a state official asking him to "find" more votes to overturn Democratic President Joe Biden's election victory.

Trump continues to assert falsely that the 2020 election was stolen from him through widespread voting fraud. He has denied wrongdoing and accused Willis, an elected Democrat, of targeting him for political reasons.

The Georgia investigation is one of several threatening Trump, including separate U.S. Justice Department inquiries into his retention of classified materials after leaving office as well as his efforts to invalidate the 2020 election results.

Unlike a regular grand jury, the special grand jury was not empowered to issue indictments, only recommendations, and the decision on whether to press charges ultimately rests with Willis, the district attorney. If she decides prosecution is warranted, she would need to pursue indictments from a traditional grand jury.

Trump called Georgia's top election official, Brad Raffensperger on Jan. 2, 2021, and claimed falsely that the election results were fraudulent. A recording of the call was leaked.

"I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state," said Trump, referring to the margin of 11,779 votes by which Biden won.

Four days later, a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol in a failed bid to stop Congress from certifying Biden's victory.

Willis has also examined a scheme in which a slate of alternate electors falsely asserted that Trump had won Georgia in an unsuccessful effort to award the state's electoral votes to him rather than Biden.

Witnesses in Trump election meddling probe may have lied under oath -grand jury
 

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gab nea
gab nea Feb 26, 2023 9:21PM ET
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it is so hard for perpetual habitual liars to tell the truth even if hand is on the bible. I assume they were Republican enablers lackeys !
gab nea
gab nea Feb 26, 2023 9:21PM ET
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trump taught the Republicans how to lie, but he is still the master!
Ac Tektrader
Ac Tektrader Feb 17, 2023 6:52PM ET
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deeeeeeznut spreading proven lies against American democracy tells us who you are....
deeeeeez nuttttzzzzFJB
deeeeeez nuttttzzzzFJB Feb 17, 2023 6:50PM ET
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bahahahahahahHH. ohhh so when everyone goes home and they pulled suitcases of ballots from under tables on camera..that wasn't voter fraud??? keep listening to CNN, NBC, Fox and all the newspapers controlled by special interest billionaires. bunch of sheep...BAAAAHHHH baaaahhhh...believe the lies the democrats feed to America
Derrick Cox
Derrick Cox Feb 17, 2023 6:50PM ET
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I'm with you! can't stand sheep just following blindly. so tell me where do they typically store ballots and in what kind of container?
Maximus Maximus
Maximus Maximus Feb 17, 2023 6:50PM ET
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put down that meth pipe boys
Brian Anderson
Brian Anderson Feb 17, 2023 6:50PM ET
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You’re right, the republicans have never lied! Lol. All politicians are crooks unfortunately. We need a third centerist party to protect us from thr whack jobs on the far right and far left.
Brad Albright
Brad Albright Feb 17, 2023 6:50PM ET
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This is so sad. People still swallowing the slop from lying nutcases -- the same people who stubbornly refused to watch any of the Confessional January 6th hearings, even though that was where the facta were brought to bear on this ballot suitcase lie by contemporaneous records and direct testimony from Republican officials. Ginger mint.
Jan Buyle
Jan Buyle Feb 17, 2023 5:10PM ET
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Lock him up... throw the key away... end of story
deeeeeez nuttttzzzzFJB
deeeeeez nuttttzzzzFJB Feb 17, 2023 5:10PM ET
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save your breathe Carlos. they are brainwashed 🐑 to continue to bash Trump when the Bidens, Obamas Clinton's and Soros are the ruination of this country. disgusting
Mark Jannetty
Mark Jannetty Feb 17, 2023 5:10PM ET
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reinstate him, sanction all the democrat liars and hold corrupt media accountable
Ac Tektrader
Ac Tektrader Feb 17, 2023 5:06PM ET
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this is about trump, sedition and inserection, not Hilary....
Chuck Brobst
104bigguy Feb 17, 2023 8:29AM ET
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Hillary may have lied under oath
Benjamin USA
Benjamin USA Feb 17, 2023 8:29AM ET
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Obsessed loser
Ac Tektrader
Ac Tektrader Feb 17, 2023 8:29AM ET
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104bigguy...Hilary was hated by the Putin dictatorship and the far right Republicans who tried to undermine American democracy....this tells everyone reading your post who you are...
Chuck Brobst
104bigguy Feb 17, 2023 8:29AM ET
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Ac Tektrader  My point is that the author tells us who he is.  As far as me - I'd only ask for rules to apply to both sides, and a fair judgment.  Republicans undermining democracy?  Well, we won't need to worry about that for long.  Illegals will soon outvote Americans if the Dems have their way.
Benjamin USA
Benjamin USA Feb 16, 2023 8:10PM ET
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Trump simps and beta cuck karens are liars? Who would have guessed? They definitely arent Christians…
William Smith
William Smith Feb 16, 2023 7:30PM ET
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There is a reason voter I D is fought against so vigorously by one party. Really simple, but Reuters won't allow me to post the word that starts with f and ends with d. As the leftists need to keep facts from the folks.
Tre Hsi
Tre Hsi Feb 16, 2023 7:30PM ET
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fraud
Tre Hsi
Tre Hsi Feb 16, 2023 7:30PM ET
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hmmm, seems to OK here
Brad Albright
Brad Albright Feb 16, 2023 7:30PM ET
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Do you mean fraud? Or freaked? As in freaked out conspiracy but?
Tre Hsi
Tre Hsi Feb 16, 2023 7:30PM ET
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"There is a reason voter I D is fought against so vigorously by one party."  -- is there?  all the voter ID law passed by the republican states also certified their 2016, 1018, 2020, 2022 election results, so basically the republicans in those states are saying there were no major election frauds there.....so the reason for having voter ID laws in those red states is, what exactly?
Brad Albright
Brad Albright Feb 16, 2023 7:30PM ET
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Sadly ironic is that it is lost on the fraud conspirascists that Trump's scheme whereby people falsely attested to being duly elected electors was the actual fraud.
Paul Kyyrö
Paul Kyyrö Feb 16, 2023 5:27PM ET
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Why on earth you people are arguing or defending that hypocrite, orange, big fat liar? That’s what he always wanted. To get America and it’s people to be more divided than ever. If you continue to defend him, he’s been won. Period.
Patron Silver
Patron Silver Feb 16, 2023 5:27PM ET
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No one here is discussing with retrumplicans. We just point out how misguided they are
Patron Silver
Patron Silver Feb 16, 2023 5:06PM ET
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Oh I see Carlos, djt's tariffs and trillions in money printing had nothing to do with inflation
 
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