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Fractious presidential debate unlikely to move needle for Trump

Published 09/30/2020, 02:41 AM
Updated 09/30/2020, 03:05 AM
© Reuters. U.S. President Donald Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden participate in their first 2020 presidential campaign debate in Cleveland

By James Oliphant

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Down in the opinion polls with five weeks to go until the November election, U.S. President Donald Trump sought to use the first presidential debate to bully his way back into the race.

Repeatedly interrupting and sparring with opponent Joe Biden, the Republican Trump tried to knock the Democratic former vice president off his feet Tuesday night and alter the dynamic of a contest he has been losing for months.

It was unlikely the president succeeded, largely because of his own combative and chaotic behavior but also because the insult-filled and often fact-free affair may have left the few undecided voters watching at home more dispirited than engaged.

“It’s doubtful that this mentally exhausting debate changed any minds,” said Ron Bonjean, a Republican strategist in Washington who advised Trump's 2016 transition team. “Each side walked away with something, but the shock of the personal attacks against one another probably turned many people off.“

Trump drew raves from some diehard supporters for his show of aggression toward Biden. But he spent little time attempting to persuade swing voters, particularly women who have been critical of his tone and tactics, that he is the candidate best suited to tackle fundamental election issues such as the coronavirus pandemic, healthcare and race relations.

The debate was held in Ohio, where Biden will campaign on Wednesday and one of a group of Midwestern states where the race is expected to remain competitive. With Biden chipping away at Trump's base in battleground states that decide elections, the president may have squandered a chance to reach voters he needs.

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Reuters/Ipsos polling this month found that four in 10 white non-college-educated likely voters in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin said they were backing Biden this year, up from 2016 when Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton was supported by about three in 10 non-college whites in those states.

The polling shows Biden with a sizable lead overall nationally but with a smaller edge in those key states.

"Debates usually have very little influence on how people vote. It's even more difficult to see how this one could persuade voters one way or the other, since it gave us so little opportunity to learn about the candidates and their plans,” said Christopher Devine, an expert on presidential campaigns at the University of Dayton in Ohio.

TRUMP 'A CLOWN,' 'WORST PRESIDENT'

Trump did manage on occasion to push Biden out of his comfort zone, leading the Democrat, who before the debate pledged to keep his cool, to deride Trump as a “clown” and the “worst president” in U.S. history.

Biden struggled to repel Trump’s attacks concerning Biden’s support of the protests that have erupted nationwide over racism and police brutality, sometimes turning violent.

The former vice president has embraced some of the goals of the peaceful protest movement, but not its push to de-fund police departments as Trump has suggested.

Biden also refused to answer Trump’s direct question about whether he would, as president, seek to add more justices to the U.S. Supreme Court to counter its rightward turn.

Biden at times was able to squeeze in the key themes of his candidacy, that Trump was unfit for a second term for his handling of the pandemic and his divisive leadership style. In a dig at Trump’s flagging support with the critical suburban voting bloc, Biden said: “He wouldn't know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn."

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But Trump often spoke over his rival and moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News, making it difficult for them to say much at all. When Biden did get a chance, he made a point of addressing the camera, trying to speak directly to voters, while Trump stared at him balefully.

"That was a game plan that Biden had and he executed it,” said Aaron Kall, an expert on presidential debates at the University of Michigan. “Trump couldn’t get past his own disdain for Biden.”

Trump again demurred when asked point-blank to reassure voters that he would accept the results of the election, instead raging against mail-in ballots and ominously warning viewers at home that the contest would not “end well.”

If he is hoping to win over undecided voters, Kall said, Trump will need to outline a sunnier, more optimistic vision for the nation in the next two debates – a tall task for a politician who favors scorched-earth warfare.

The calendar is against him. Subsequent debates typically are watched by fewer people, and many Americans will have voted by then. As the underdog, Trump lost precious time on Tuesday.

“This was the one opportunity that existed to make a good first impression on the small segment of undecided voters,” Kall said. “That is not what we experienced tonight.”

Latest comments

Trump had shown that he is a liar and had no integrity. He's not fit to be a president. he's intolerant and a racist and a sexist. he's turned our country poisonous. enough already. vote in person so he has less excuses.
'Will you shut up man!' - coming to a t-shirt near you.
No difference between present day USA politicians and third world politicians.
except in the 3rd world they let the gloves off........
“Down in the opinion polls”... first sentence, opinion polling is irrelevant.
it's fake anyway... the silent majority will prevail at the voting booths
Opinion polls for an opinion piece, by media shill Reuters.
Trump destroyed Biden. Only Anti-Trump sychophsnts and blind leftists will vote Biden.
Lol!
Reuters is equal to chinese propaganda
Trumps response to Coronavirus effort and 200K+deaths and counting  "It is what it is"-Trump   .....Makes JRK speeches sound like godsends.
population in Germany .. 25 % of USA ... total deaths Corona related... Germany 9,556...USA 210,797 ... WHAT KIND OF LEADERSHIP
Perhaps if Democrats hadn't tweeted and encouraged their base to crowd en masse into Chinatown for the Lunar New Year to prove how non Xenophobic they were in the early stages, as well as encouraging mass protest across the nation, they'd be far lower. You are the very definition of low information voter.
Exactly, Trump was first workd leader to stop travel while the US governement was trying to impeach him on garbage charges.
Trump destroyed Biden, rudely? Yes....does that matter to policy and competence...yes, but it is an advantage!
Trump did the only 2 things he knows: bragging and bullying. But he also demonstrated his total incompetence during the entire debate... It's a run race for Biden, no doubt!
Low information voters like you were saying the same thing in 2016.
Biden only did 2 things, sensationalize and lie while stuttering and using grade-school nanes. Trump was in command.
trump is winning the presidency!
that was supposed to be a debate by candidates of the country with nuclear power
we are doomed. drumpf s master, putin, is pleased with his performance.
so you're telling me Trump is the Russian puppet, but Biden, whose son recieved money directly from Russia, is not? Has Trump or his family ever recieved money from Russia while in public office? China? Follow the money, not the media lies.
It's now been documented Hillary created the entire Trump/ Putin ruse. She also sold out America's uranium to Russia. She was more beholden to Russia than anybody, aside from Biden whose son was paid handsomely to maintain Biden as a tool. These are facts low information Democrats such as yourself are incapable of discovering without CNN to hold your hand through life.
Reuters showing its loaded political heavy bias in the use of opionated words designed to smear and put down. Totally unobjective
If Chis Wallace had switched seats with Senile Joe it would be easier. And Joe could go back to sleep...
Woody Get!
The whole "sleepy" and "dementia" ploy is starting to get old. Biden was far more coherent than Trump and his raging rants and tantrums in the debate.
Your comment is as popular as the president. Haha.
this debate was an embarrassment for the United States. Two less able leaders yelling at each other like 16 year olds who had dropped out of school to become circus Barker's." Step right up and play my game. Win the bestest prize."
Debate was fun and will be funnier going forward. It's hilarious to see strongest country in the world producing jokers as front runners.
Yeah, fake news. Keep telling yourselvs that. The corrupt swamp establishment back in charge... people are not for it
more like 1930s Italy. except Trump is taller, older, has more hair and less intelligence. Mussolini wanted to make Italy strong again . Trump wanted to make America great again. Both were miserable failures, narcissists and wanted to create an extreme nationalistic super predatory rwlugeous state. Both were atheists that feigned belief and insisted they were doing g-dswill.
during Trump's presidency the federal govt budget went up every year, in case you still holds out hope that somehow president orange is the one to drain the swamp......
The debate is a train wreck.  However, since Trump is trailing in the polls, he needed to win the debate outright, clearly he didn't achieve that......in the meantime, Biden showed that he isn't sleep joe and he can push back in a shouting match.  From now on Trump's supporters can't really use the "he doesn't even know where he is" or "he can't string a sentence together without teleprompter" argument anymore.....
Biden shouldn't lower himself to any further debates with that lying orifice?
Why give a talking point to Trump's campaign by not doing the 2 other debates already agreed?  For better or worse the TV debates still draws millions of viewers. Biden is leading in the polls so he just need to show up and do his thing and let Trump flails around.  Protect the 8-10% lead and don't give the voters any reason to change their mind.
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