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A U.S.-China 'phase one' trade deal may not be inked this year

Published 11/20/2019, 10:32 PM
Updated 11/20/2019, 10:32 PM
© Reuters. FILE PHOTO: Trump meets Xi at the G20 leaders summit in Osaka, Japan

By Heather Timmons

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Completion of a "phase one" U.S.-China trade deal could slide into next year, trade experts and people close to the White House said, as Beijing presses for more extensive tariff rollbacks, and the Trump administration counters with heightened demands of its own.

An initial trade deal could take as long as five weeks to sign, U.S. President Donald Trump and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china/u-s-outlines-phase-1-trade-deal-with-china-suspends-october-tariff-hike-idUSKBN1WQ10Xlast month.

Just over five weeks later, a deal is still elusive, and negotiations may be getting more complicated, trade experts and people briefed on the talks told Reuters this week.

Asked Wednesday about the status of the China deal, Trump told reporters in Texas "I don't think they're stepping up to the level that I want."

Trump and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer recognize that rolling back tariffs for a deal that fails to address core intellectual property and technology transfer issues will not be seen as a good deal for the United States, a person briefed on the matter said.

In a dinner speech in Beijing on Wednesday, Vice Premier Liu He said he was "cautiously optimistic" on a phase one deal, Bloomberg News said, citing people who attended the event ahead of a forum organized by Bloomberg LP.

Liu, China's chief negotiator at the Sino-U.S. trade talks, separately told one of the attendees that he was "confused" about the U.S. demands, but was confident the first phase of a deal could be completed nevertheless, Bloomberg added.

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Officials from Beijing had suggested that Chinese President Xi Jinping and Trump might sign a deal in early December.

Some experts said the next date to watch was Dec. 15, when tariffs on about $156 billion in Chinese goods are set to take effect, including holiday gift items such as electronics and Christmas decorations.

"If talks are really going well, that hike will be suspended," said Christian Whiton, a senior fellow for strategy and trade at the Center for the National Interest, and a former Trump and George W. Bush administration adviser.

"If not, the U.S. will implement them and that will throw the game into next year."

U.S. stocks extended their fall Wednesday on the potential delay, with the S&P (SPX) last down 0.8%, while Treasury yields (US10YT=RR) dropped and the dollar (DXY) pared gains.

"Negotiations are continuing and progress is being made on the text of the phase-one agreement," White House spokesman Judd Deere said in an email Wednesday afternoon.

The crackdown on protests in Hong Kong may also complicate the deal's completion.

The Hong Kong issue is definitely a negative factor in the trade talks, Zhang Yansheng, principal researcher at the state-affiliated think-tank China Center for International Economic Exchanges, said at the Bloomberg forum on Thursday.

A phase one deal is likely this year if there was "no disturbance", Zhang said, without elaborating.

The U.S. Senate passed a bill on Tuesday night condemning the crackdown and pledging support for Hong Kong, which was immediately criticized by Beijing.

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"The violent crackdown against protesters in Hong Kong, which Beijing is directing, decreases the odds of a deal," Whiton said. "Is Xi really going to be invited for a grip-and-grin with the president as his cops are beating students in Hong Kong?"

Negotiations also are complicated by conflicts within the White House about the best approach to China, and by the fact that Trump could veto any agreed deal at the last minute.

The flare-up in tensions between Washington and Beijing helped knock global stock markets from 22-month highs reached in recent weeks when some sort of resolution on the trade war appeared likely.

Some China and trade experts briefed on the talks told Reuters they were still optimistic a deal might come together in the coming weeks, and Trump said on Wednesday his team continues to talk with China.

A Saturday call between Mnuchin, Lighthizer and China's Liu was described as "constructive" by state news agency Xinhua.

And the U.S. government has begun issuing licenses for some companies to supply goods to Huawei Technologies Co Ltd, the world's largest telecoms equipment maker whose blacklisting by the administration has been another point of contention.

Nonetheless, Chinese pundits now also say they are pessimistic about a deal.

"Few Chinese believe that China and the US can reach a deal soon," Hu Xijin, the editor of the state-backed Chinese tabloid Global Times, said on Twitter on Wednesday.

The Global Times is not the official media outlet of the Chinese Communist Party - the People's Daily is - but Hu has described his role https://qz.com/745577/inside-the-global-times-chinas-hawkish-belligerent-state-tabloid as giving voice to what Beijing officials wish they could say in public.

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Hu concluded: "China wants a deal but is prepared for the worst-case scenario, a prolonged trade war."

Latest comments

Tomorrow’s headline: “Stocks rally as trump tweets ‘phase one deal’ will be inked by end of year ”.
Gratz to the people who called this garbage once again. Those short positions must be looking good.
They definately do...
I guess it's a matter of cultures. In some cultures it's not lawful to steal ideas and violate human rights. And in some cultures apparently it is.
Did kid yourself our values are set in the Constitution. The China people are equally loyal to their... who ever is telling them how to live. Who cares anymore, really. Just make the products anywhere else but China. At least we'll be buying things that work, or last a little longer. Taiwan would be a good place to start up more manufacturing.
*don't
the deal depends on USA, USA is almost forcing a deal with China, buy our products or there is no deal and we have rise the tariffs. ********
This isn't really about trade, although The US is permanently fixed on correcting decades old unfair practices. This is about shifting power out of China and into other Asian nations who are at odds with China's East Vietnam Sea policies among other things. Recent data reflects the success of this endeavor. Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, and even India are gaining in manufacturing and foreign investment at impressive rates while China is losing on all fronts. The narcissism and hubris in Beijing disallow them to see what the true purpose of the tariffs and prolonged dispute is intended to accomplish. Hook, line and sinker...
I watched different news source on YouTube, and I found put the mainstream media are so Fake is unbelievable. They edit and cut things out to make news become whatever they want. So much things said about China are wrong.
yea blame the actions you chose and made on the others who took advantage of said actions. 'merica
East Vietnam Sea? What kind of latest or ancient map do you use?
It is fake news unless the sources clearly state as coming from either Robert Lighthizer, Peter Navarro or the White House.
lol. wild guess there, 18 months of screaming having great progress with China is real news?
The Mooche said Trump will be out of office by March. Either he will get impeached, give up hope for running, or just quits since he see no chance winning against Biden or Warren.
If the Dems would turn their focus from $30 trillion health care schemes and focus on how they would address the screwed up trade mess and jobs-related infrastructure fixes, they'd be even furthet ahead in the poles. Only then would Trump get up off his backside
no deal can be reached before this liar gets out of white house!!
“Phase 1” was a very clever ploy by trump to take emphasis off of the fact that we will likely never see the trade deal that was originally touted.
of course when I look to see if any other news outlet has reported similar the only one that didnt and said the trade deal was making headway was a fox article
Trade deal may not be completed PERIOD
Reuters is one big liar, combinator and Very Big speculator !
I told you guys ... It is not so easy trying to win against a seasoned franchise. Trump needs a lot more traing to compete in the Big League. Quarterback Xi is a veteran at this game. You don't just go on their turfs and said, we will shut uou down. It will take much more offense to play.
Just read on Seeking Alpha that the trade deal is making headway.
tariff increase by 12/31! trump 2020
It is almost December on a lighter note..
not as much a lighter note now with deal chances dimming and more tarrifs inching in
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