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Second whistleblower in Trump-Ukraine scandal comes forward: lawyer

Published 10/06/2019, 03:51 PM
Updated 10/06/2019, 03:51 PM
© Reuters. President Donald Trump attends Young Black Leadership Summit

By Doina Chiacu and Mark Hosenball

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A second whistleblower has come forward with first-hand knowledge of President Donald Trump's attempts to get the Ukrainian president to investigate a political rival, lawyers for the official said on Sunday.

Lawyer Mark Zaid said the person, also an intelligence official, has direct knowledge of some of the allegations involving the initial whistleblower complaint, which triggered impeachment proceedings against the Republican president.

The emergence of a second protected witness complicates efforts by Trump and his Republican supporters to dismiss the complaint as politically motivated hearsay and may strengthen the Democrats' case against him.

The complaint, filed with the inspector general on Aug. 12, cited information received from half a dozen U.S. officials expressing concern that Trump was using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country as he seeks re-election to a second term in 2020.

It also alleged that Trump leveraged $400 million in aid to secure a promise from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate a Democratic rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son Hunter Biden, who sat on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.

"I can confirm that my firm and my team represent multiple whistleblowers in connection to the underlying August 12, 2019, disclosure to the Intelligence Community Inspector General," Andrew Bakaj, a second lawyer, said on Twitter. Bakaj declined further comment.

Zaid said the whistleblower had spoken with the inspector general as part of an initial examination of the whistleblower complaint. An interview with the inspector general affords protection against reprisal.

Confirmation of another whistleblower followed stirrings of discontent within Trump's own Republican Party after he called on Beijing on Friday to investigate Biden's son, who had business dealings in China.

Republican U.S. Senators Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse and Susan Collins have expressed concerns about Trump reaching out to foreign countries to help him in his 2020 re-election bid.

However, other Republicans stood firmly in support of Trump on news shows on Sunday, echoing the president's insistence that there was nothing wrong with his Ukraine call and dismissing his entreaty to China as a joke, even though Trump continues to raise the issue.

"I doubt if the China comment was serious to tell you the truth," U.S. Senator Roy Blunt, a Republican member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"I don't imagine that's what he was doing. Certainly we shouldn't expect the Chinese, the Russians or any of our national security adversaries to be helpful in any way."

Trump has alleged that Hunter Biden profited in his business dealings in both Ukraine and China from his father's position, and that Joe Biden, as vice president, pushed Ukraine to fire a prosecutor to impede a probe of a company tied to his son.

However, there has been no evidence of any wrongdoing.

"The Biden family was PAID OFF, pure and simple!" Trump exclaimed on Twitter on Sunday.

Biden spokesman Andrew Bates said Trump had "sent his administration into a tailspin by trying to bully a foreign country into spreading a comprehensively debunked conspiracy theory about the vice president" and he predicted Trump would lose "the old-fashioned way: an intervention by his own country - courtesy of the American people - in 2020."

DO-SOMETHING DEMOCRATS

The telephone call with Zelenskiy, a summary of which was released by the White House, and the whistleblower complaint prompted House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi to launch the impeachment inquiry on Sept. 24. Trump's attempts to solicit foreign interference jeopardized U.S. election integrity and threatened national security, she said.

The investigation could lead to the approval of articles of impeachment - or formal charges - against Trump in the House. A trial on whether to remove him from office would then be held in the U.S. Senate. Republicans who control the Senate have shown little appetite for ousting Trump.

Democrats said any finding that Trump withheld taxpayer money, already approved by Congress to help Ukraine fight Russian aggression, in exchange for a favor from Zelenskiy would strengthen the case against him.

Trump has maintained there was no "quid pro quo" in his request of the Ukrainian president, but text messages released last week have heightened Democrats' concerns.

In the texts, Trump's Ukraine envoy, Kurt Volker, told a Zelenskiy adviser a meeting with Trump could be set up if Zelenskiy convinced the U.S. president he would pursue an investigation, while another State Department official expressed unease over the withholding of aid.

The committees leading the impeachment inquiry released the texts after Volker testified on Thursday.

The committees this week expect to hear from several other U.S. diplomats, including Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, a committee official confirmed on Sunday. Sondland worked closely with Volker and Trump's personal lawyer Rudolph Giuliani on the Ukraine effort.

© Reuters. President Donald Trump attends Young Black Leadership Summit

Former U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, disparaged by Trump and abruptly recalled from Ukraine, was scheduled to give a deposition to congressional committees on Friday.

Latest comments

What is the Koch Group going to. do with their stooge?
You all are my heros!
TrumpPushes the envelope too much and is thinning his herd
3, 4, 5 are lined up, jus tlike with Cavanaugh... All fake, all coached (pressured, threatened) to say what they are told. Stop this nonsense. Pass USMCA, infrastructure, merit based immigration with NO DACA, no chains, no lottery.
Orb, you're the one speaking nonsense when of course you have absolutely no proof of what you claim. Even more ridiculous when nobody (especially you) even knows who the whistle-blowers are.
Nonsense. When did he claim to know who they are?
Democrat criminals
Trump is the criminal, and the biggest evidence is from his own mouth! It's a crime to even ask a foreign government for help that would affect your own election, regardless of whether there was quid pro quo or not. Trump is getting desperate and he's going to end up digging his own grave, with his habit of speaking without thinking.
Biden was the one who did everything they are accusing Trump of doing. What a Creepy Joe he turned out.
Lock him up lol
should be titled "Another Democrat liar comes forward"
Another attempt at treason. Mr President I can only assume they are all about to get arrested.
attn Democrats I have screen door submarines for sale
all you Republicans ignoring the facts won't make them go away - unless you missed it - Trumps selected fall guy has come out with integrity and publicly said he had nothing to do with this - putting it all back on Russian Rudy, Magic Mike, Bolshoi Barr and the Little Dictator - Subpeona's coming and Pompeo could find himself behind bars in Contempt!!! Once someone is in jail on this the rats will start jumping ship fast!
We need a real Republican in office, like Bill Weld.
Trump is changing the truth in a very brutal manner. His administration does have a lot of conflicts with other countries about what is said, what is promised and what will be the next step. But as always they claim the other to be disshonest and very very bad and the US has been treated very very unfair. I think Shakespeare would have loved to write this drama.
I can't wait until this results in more impeachment blue ******* None of this is illegal.
Is michael avanotie representing the second wisleblower.
who cares if there is a second whistle blower for the same issue? the call has already been released. the left has realized they cannot win 2020 legitimately and this is their last grasp at straws since the Russia collusion hoax fell flat on its face.
nailed it.
actually the call hasn't been released, the full unredacted call was to be released the second day but the call the was released was a summary of the recollections of some of the people listening on the call - your facts are incorrect - do a little diligence!
so the first spy has lost cred and now they call up, from the bullpen, a new spy? nothing but a coup attempt by the slave party.
The democrats primary job is to find a way to impeach Trump before he even took office. LOL
we need to remove this incompetent psychotic maniac. before he destroys our economy even further. as it is we are looking at a major recession that will LAST years this time. . . But now it’s starting to look as if Trump really will achieve something unique: He may well be the first president of modern times to preside over a slump that can be directly attributed to his own policies, rather than bad luck.
Is that you Ben??
what, is that you Ben?
I agree. Nancy Pelosi and lying Schiff need to be removed.
There has been a putch on the US government. Trump took power brutally and it will not be easy to remove him. He is a dictator and he feels that there are no laws that apply to him. he thinks he is above them. Please become aware of the nasyy situation the US is in...
Yawn
They can't win with no political platform, so they have to try and muddy the waters. All the while they strengthen the President's voting base.
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