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U.S., China Move Closer to Trade Deal Despite Heated Rhetoric

Published 12/04/2019, 04:25 AM
Updated 12/04/2019, 05:41 AM
U.S., China Move Closer to Trade Deal Despite Heated Rhetoric

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The U.S. and China are moving closer to agreeing on the amount of tariffs that would be rolled back in a phase-one trade deal despite tensions over Hong Kong and Xinjiang, people familiar with the talks said.

The people, who asked not to be identified, said that U.S. President Donald Trump’s comments Tuesday downplaying the urgency of a deal shouldn’t be understood to mean the talks were stalling, as he was speaking off the cuff. Recent U.S. legislation seeking to sanction Chinese officials over human-rights issues in Hong Kong and Xinjiang are unlikely to impact the talks, one person familiar with Beijing’s thinking said.

U.S. negotiators expect a phase-one deal with China to be completed before American tariffs are set to rise on Dec. 15, the people said. Outstanding issues in the talks include how to guarantee China’s purchases of U.S. agricultural goods and exactly which tariffs to roll back, they added.

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment. China’s Ministry of Commerce didn’t immediately respond to a fax seeking comment on tariff rollbacks.

Stocks rallied in Europe and U.S. equity futures advanced, rebounding from declines on Tuesday tied to Trump’s comments that he doesn’t have a deadline to sign an agreement with Beijing. The offshore yuan reversed declines to gain as much as 0.22%.

Investors are closely watching for any signs of progress on a phase-one deal as worries increase that Trump may slap more tariffs on China later this month. The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved legislation on Tuesday that would impose sanctions on Chinese officials over human-rights abuses against Muslim minorities, prompting Beijing to threaten possible retaliation.

China foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying on Wednesday blasted U.S. lawmakers as “too ignorant, too shameless and too hypocritical.”

While officials from both nations have emphasized repeatedly that talks are making progress and they remain in constant contact, the negative rhetoric on both sides recently has heightened fears that the talks could drag on. That’s despite the fact that Trump’s strategy in trade talks has long been to downplay his desire for a deal and slow-walk a negotiating partner.

Tariff Threat

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said Tuesday the U.S. will go ahead with its plan to add tariffs on Chinese products if nothing changes come mid-December. A report from Chinese state media earlier had indicated the government would soon publish a list of “unreliable entities” if the Xinjiang bill passes that could lead to sanctions against U.S. companies.

Trump didn’t initiate the bill involving Xinjiang and a law supporting protesters in Hong Kong, and they are separate issues to the trade talks, according to Lu Xiang, an expert in bilateral ties at the state-run Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing, which is affiliated with the State Council.

“If the U.S. follows through with the threat of tariffs on Dec. 15, that is definitely a re-escalation, and China will retaliate,” Lu said. Trump is “still weighing the conditions for a deal, but for his political interests, he needs a deal -- no matter if it is signed in December, January or February.”

(Updates with market reaction in fifth paragraph.)

Latest comments

right Thom miller in this small investor worst their money....
Here we go again with the yoyo China trade talks. It’s becoming more and more obvious that the Donald tells his kids the day before he’s going to trash the trade talks. They sell a strategic portion of their portfolio. Then a day or two later the Donald tells his kids he’s soon going to praise the trade talks and they purchase those stocks that will benefit from such a tip. The Donald’s next book after impeachment: “The Art of Stock Market Manipulation.”
Tomorrow: “Stocks wane as trade talks hit bumps”
to all the people constantly shouting fake new fake news, please start your own news service and show us how it's done. then we can trust your every word and follow your genius insights until we're all rich.
all people have to do is investigate and research matters themselves to know what is fake news and real and not just believe everything a "news" source reports.
I thought fake news was only in underdeveloped countries, but there's one in the U.S. Besides, people are so gullible. The person who made the fake news must have made a lot of money.
I love Bloomberg news every time I've done the opposite of what they said I've made money.
tfw r/wallstreetbets has the best coverage of this trade war than any other news agency...https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/e5fhz9/trade_war_cycle_update_version_6_build_9/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
big shark pay them to create chances to unload position..lame
Only Bloomberg has this news and no other outlet. how reliable is this news?
U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment. China’s Ministry of Commerce didn’t immediately respond to a fax seeking comment on tariff rollbacks. And market is up. Who is playing who now?
It is in the interest of the big firms to keep the hype going and not allow the market to collapse. Short term traders would be advised not to hold positions for too long. Longer term traders and investors should get ready for a roller coaster.
Lmao
we investors are fooled, again and again
The algos need to stop responding to stories based on anonymous sources. For all we know this "source" could be a back office Bloomberg employee that lost a ton yesterday.. Sell at the open me thinks.
The people on the bus go up and down, up and down, up and down...
Probably delay tariffs until next year so he can keep cpntrol of markets. Twitter market timez
Never was a trade deal. Trump just thought up something that sounded like a hit.
next day , trade hope fades as trump warns China for a deal. hahaha…
if they couldn't reach an agreement over tariff rollbacks/agricultural purchases by now, I highly doubt anything will materialize over the course of the next 11 days..
There will be no such thing as a trade deal. A deal with this megalomaniac means submission. For most country in the world, this would be the lowest one can go. It just not going to happen, no with that peace of sxxx, and not in this environment. Tarif man ? What a joke !!
Who is actually telling the truth here? Are all parties lying ?Very likely so...
Says "persons who asked not to be identified"?
Now everybody knows It might be fake news. Don't let anonymous sources be used on news reports where many people's wealth is at stake. Make the bill and let's sue if these anonymous sources aren't true. let's sue bloomberg.
How many corrupt South Korean presidents are in the prison now?
Decouple permanently, you cannot trust a mafia government Chinese CCP to be abide by the agreement. Just like they never were abide by the WTO rules
Its sentiment manipulation.
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