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Biden, McCarthy meeting ends with no deal on debt ceiling

Published 05/22/2023, 06:04 AM
Updated 05/23/2023, 04:02 AM
© Reuters. FILE PHOTO: Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) arrives for a portrait unveiling ceremony for former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., May 17, 2023. REUTERS/Nathan Howard/

By David Morgan and Nandita Bose

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy could not reach an agreement Monday on how to raise the U.S. government's $31.4 trillion debt ceiling with just 10 days before a possible default that could sink the U.S. economy, but vowed to keep talking.

The Democratic president and the top congressional Republican have struggled to make a deal, as McCarthy pressures the White House to agree to spending cuts in the federal budget that Biden considers "extreme," and the president pushes new taxes that Republicans have rejected.

Both sides stressed the need to avoid default with a bipartisan deal after Monday evening's meeting, however, and signaled that they'd be talking regularly in coming days.

A source familiar with the situation said that White House negotiators were returning to Capitol Hill on Monday night to resume talks.

"We reiterated once again that default is off the table and the only way to move forward is in good faith toward a bipartisan agreement," Biden said in a statement after the meeting, which he called "productive."

McCarthy told reporters after over an hour of talks with Biden that negotiators are "going to get together, work through the night" to try to find common ground.

"I believe we can still get there," McCarthy said. He is not willing to consider Biden's plan to cut the deficit by raising taxes on the wealthy and closing tax loopholes for the oil and pharmaceutical industries, he said, and is focused on reducing spending in the 2024 federal budget.

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Democrats and Republicans have until June 1 to increase the government's self-borrowing limit or trigger an unprecedented debt default that economists warn could bring on a recession.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen on Monday offered a sobering reminder of how little time is left, saying the earliest estimated default date remains June 1 and that it is "highly likely" that Treasury will no longer be able to pay all government obligations by early June if the debt ceiling is not raised.

Republican Representative Patrick McHenry, who was in the White House meeting, ruled out any partial budget agreement to raise the debt ceiling. "No one's going to agree to anything until we have a finalized deal," he said.

He said the tone in the Biden meeting was the most positive yet.

Any deal to raise the limit must pass both chambers of Congress, and therefore hinges on bipartisan support. McCarthy's Republicans control the House 222-213, while Biden's Democrats hold the Senate 51-49.

A failure to lift the debt ceiling would trigger a default that would shake financial markets and drive interest rates higher on everything from car payments to credit cards.

U.S. markets rose on Monday as investors awaited updates on the negotiations.

It will take several days to move legislation through Congress if and when Biden and McCarthy come to an agreement. McCarthy said that a deal must be reached this week for it to pass Congress and be signed into law by Biden in time to avoid default.

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CUTS AND CLAWBACKS

Republicans want discretionary spending cuts, new work requirements for some programs for low-income Americans and a clawback of COVID-19 aid approved by Congress but not yet spent in exchange for a debt ceiling increase, which is needed to cover the costs of lawmakers' previously approved spending and tax cuts.

Democrats want to hold spending steady at this year's levels in 2024, while Republicans want to return to 2022 levels next year and cap spending growth in the years ahead. A plan passed by the House last month would cut a wide swath of government spending by 8% next year.

Biden, who has made the economy a centerpiece of his domestic agenda and is seeking re-election, has said he would consider spending cuts alongside tax adjustments but that Republicans' latest offer was "unacceptable."

The president tweeted that he would not back "Big Oil" subsidies and "wealthy tax cheats" while putting healthcare and food assistance at risk for millions of Americans.

Both sides must also weigh any concessions with pressure from hardline factions within their own parties.

Some far-right House Freedom Caucus members have urged a halt to talks, demanding that the Senate adopt their House-passed legislation, which has been rejected by Democrats.

McCarthy, who made extensive concessions to right-wing hardliners to secure the speaker spot, may risk being removed by members of his own party if they do not like the deal he cuts.

Former President Donald Trump, a Republican who is seeking another term after losing to Biden in the 2020 election, has urged Republicans to force a default if they do not achieve all their goals, downplaying any economic consequences.

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Liberal Democrats have pushed back against any cuts that would harm families and lower-income Americans. Hakeem Jeffries, the top House Democrat, accused Republicans of running a "hostage negotiation" with the talks and said he is seeking Republican votes for a discharge petition that could raise the debt ceiling on its own.

Biden has offered to freeze spending at this year's levels, Jeffries said, an offer that was rejected by Republicans.

Latest comments

Of course he is not willing to consider closing tax loopholes or rediculous tax cuts. Shows how much he actually cares about the deficit
OK, so the democrats should cut the green initiative, subsidies, add work restrictions, return unspent covid funds and all foreign aid. how ridiculous is it the only way for a Democrat to function, is to steal more money from the American people?
 Orange Messiah signed 2 covid relief bills totaling $3T and wanted to spend more......that's all, now you can go back to rant about covid fund
Foreign aid, by the way NOT in the Republican spending cut bill,  restrains global influence from Russia and China.
Hey, it specifically says, “ Trump, a republicIan candidate that lost in a 2020 election is seeking another term”. I’m glad they clarified. Did Reuters think we might be confusing Trump with some other Trump? .
And their grammar was better.
Is there another Donald Trump? God help us...
 Hillary conceded within 48 hours of the election, that's all, now you can go back to your rant
It’s just a game for the politicians: As long as the USD is the world’s reserve currency, the U.S. can get away with printing more dollars w/o causing hyperinflation. That is the reason that the U.S. would go to war to preserve the dollars reserve currency status.
wont last much tho. dedollarization is gaining momentum worldwide
True - and THAT would truly bring panic to American politics and the U.S. economy. Since the Bretton-Woods Agreement in 1944, the U.S. has gained immense wealth on the reserve currency status, not superior productivity or ingenuity. Oh, and I am not in any way anti-American. Facts are facts.
What are your measure for productivity and ingenuity? GPD? Patents? Because by any tangible measures, the USA has been consistently at or near the top since WWII. Fact.
Borrow from IMF
Unspent covid 19 funds should be used to raise debt ceiling is eassiest thing. Hello???
I wonder why McCarthy is hell bent on not allowing tax loopholes to be plugged? WHY? Isn't it a good thing? On one hand he is not willing to raise debt ceiling (that's a good thing) and on the other hand, he also wants the huge corporations to keep huge profits and not pay the actual taxes due to the govt.? WHAT THE HECK IS THIS HIPPOCRISY! SUCH VESTED INTERESTS, IT IS SICK.
I wonder why are Republicans Mr. McCarthy hell bent on not allowing tax loopholes to be plugged. If you are concerned about only spending cuts, also be concerned about huge corps saving taxes and not paying actual due to the murican govt.. WHY THE HIPPOCRISY?
I wonder how McCarthy feels about trying to negotiate with someone who has dementia.
I wonder how Biden feels trying to fight corporate lobby alone
Biden is king corporations. What planet do you live on?
"I wonder how McCarthy feels about trying to negotiate with someone who has dementia."  -- wait until he loses the negotiation to the grandpa with dementia.....
That sounds very feasable on getting some tax money from the super rich and any loopholes that are getting abused. It shouldnt be so black and white. There can be some gray where we can meet in the middle. With Execs and CEO, COO, CFO and ofher top level execs making 100-1000 times what their employees are being paid. I can see it commanding a good salary, but it should no way be 500 times more than someone making $100-$125,000 a year. Between that and that crazy amount of stock buybacks but forgetting anout your workers and the mouths they need to feed. They’re also the driver of the economy. Without money to spend here then GDP goes away real quick. The openess to habing oil&gas leases approved more quickly and without so many hassles. The Democrats have made it a nightmare to get a drilling permits and in the process have rasied fuel prices 70-200% so along with it everything that needs to be transported has to have more money because of the added cost. Now that cost has to be
Because it hasnt been a good market to invest a bunch more money into. With Democrats being so unreasonable with producing new oil wells they have made it hard to get drilling permits in a timely matter. Without huge expense.
@trevor. You don't know what you are talking about. Just last month, the Biden administration auctioned odd 2,600 square miles for drilling in the gulf of Mexico. Prior to that, Biden signed bills shortening the permitting prices and opening up the Willow project for exploration in Alaska. Get your facts straight.
 "lower the debt limit by 3%"  -- you are not the sharpest tool in the tool box, are you?
murica default is good weapon , if murica economics goings down , other country dead and rotten.
otb is back with his support of Russia's war of genocide against the Ukrainians....
there's not going to be a default dummies. this is just political theater that they use to get free press.
Free press? Okay, sure.
He won't because he's a troll
So when they going to meet and talk again?
They need mega money to fight the Ukraine war they created, while they open the US borders to illegals - good, bad, and the worst.
You amezit boys need a new script.
joe' blewitt..... immigrants built this country without them there would be no America.....
joe you just make up the numbers as you go along....
When they say 'Poor Americans' they are talking about the illegals. The truth is there is plenty of money for legal American citizens, without raising taxes.
Regarded Americans 🤡
Let's face it the dEmofArts don't negotiate on anything anymore they are full cOmmunIst and are out to turn america into a 3rd world country... big o and valeRie j behind the scenes running things
Trumpster still showing your support for inserection and sedition and the destruction of American democracy...
There is no common ground. The division is too great. The solution is to make each state sovereign.
tom ..we tried that, it doesn't work and if you ever read american history you would know that....
  America is dead. We are no longer Americans. We are enemies and there will be war.
 Each state will have to pay for it's own military.
So the market should tank on debt ceiling fears?
Estimates are big losses in the market if we default. Seniors may never be made whole if they're 80+ years old.
You do know the treasury can prioritize debt, and social security is self funded. at least until Democrat's raided it.
it's one big yawn that the media companies make a big deal about to gain eyes and ears. such a pitiful joke this human existence in ways.
Oh lord, the pretending has to end.. we all know they will pass it eventually 🙄
So no news on what they said after the meet?
lol they should All Be FIRED...PRESIDENT TRUMP Could do All this on his OWN.. joe is a empty suit idiot stick
 lol they should All Be FIRED...PRESIDENT TRUMP Could do All this on his OWN.. jOe is a empty suit toooool
Trump is an ignorant crook he trouble walking and chewing gum
Add $5 ppb to oil by Friday.
Tension, suspense , fear......follow by relief, excitement, gratitude.......thats how the debt ceiling drama end
Republicans will sink the economy.
ya, 2.86 trillion over ten years! but the yearly deficit is still 2.5 trillion ish... 2.5 trillion x 10 is 25 trillion increased debt... 31 trillion plus 25 trillion is.... drumroll....
your statement make no sense....a deficit reduction is a reduction in money owed. you sound confused...
jason perhaps you've been brain washed by the proven Right wing lies in their media.
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