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U.S. Democrats to pare climate, social spending; no clear target

EconomyOct 03, 2021 08:26PM ET
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By Susan Cornwell

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Congressional Democrats face the hard work of paring back the White House's sweeping infrastructure and social agenda in the week ahead, but have yet to agree on a target size for their multi-trillion dollar spending bill.

Democrats said on https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-struggle-reach-deal-congress-bidens-agenda-2021-10-01 Friday that their sweeping bill intended to bolster the social safety net and fight climate change will need to be trimmed from a $3.5 trillion goal, perhaps to closer to $2 trillion, following a visit by the president to Capitol Hill to sell his agenda.

But they have come no closer to agreement on that figure over the weekend.

Progressive (NYSE:PGR) Democratic Senator Bernie Sanders, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, told ABC News Sunday that $3.5 trillion "should be a minimum. But I accept there is going to have to be give and take."

Moderate Democrat Joe Manchin said his top line for the package is $1.5 trillion, while fellow moderate Krysten Sinema has not committed publicly to a number.

Addressing Manchin's $1.5 trillion limit, the influential chair of the 95-member Congressional Progressive Caucus, Representative Pramila Jayapal, told CNN Sunday: "That's not gonna happen. Because that's too small to get our priorities in. So, it's gonna be somewhere between 1.5 and 3.5 (trillion dollars)."

Biden, who has said he will "work like hell" to get the legislative package passed, travels to Michigan on Tuesday to rally support for it, the White House said Sunday. Michigan has a congressional delegation that in some ways represents the broad scope of the Democratic party, from moderate Representative Elissa Slotkin to progressive Representative Rashida Tlaib.

Howell, Michigan, where the president will visit, is in Slotkin's district.

Some Democrats will inevitably be disappointed, a senior White House official said Sunday.

"People will not get everything they want, that is the art of legislating, but the goal here is to get both bills, and we’re going to fight until we get both bills," Cedric Richmond, director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday.

After earlier agreeing at moderates' urging to hold a House vote last week on a $1 trillion infrastructure bill that passed the Senate in an August bipartisan vote, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi canceled the vote Friday at the urging of progressives who want both bills to move in unison.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Sunday the goal is to get both the infrastructure and social spending bills done in the next month. Congress also needs to act in the next month to save the federal government from a catastrophic debt default.

Republicans flatly oppose the social spending bill and mocked the Democrats' decision to cancel the infrastructure vote last week. "You saw last week an epic collapse of President Biden's agenda, but they're not going to stop there," House Republican whip Steve Scalise told Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures."

Tensions remain high among Democrats. Sinema on Saturday slammed party leadership for delaying the vote on the bipartisan infrastructure package, saying the decision was "inexcusable" and eroded trust. That vote should be held "well before" Oct. 31, Pelosi said Saturday.

Both Jayapal and another prominent progressive, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, said Sunday that one way to trim the social spending plan would be to fund some programs for a shorter time period than originally envisaged.

But they both also suggested the proposals to fight climate change were not negotiable.

Democrats have limited time to reach agreement on the larger bill, as they face several other deadlines in the weeks ahead.

The most critical comes first. The Treasury Department has warned it will be unable to pay its bills by around Oct. 18 unless Congress acts to raise or suspend the $28.4 trillion debt limit. That could trigger a historic debt default that would take a heavy toll on the United States and world economies.

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Gbadeyan Samuel
Gbadeyan Samuel Oct 03, 2021 9:41PM ET
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win
palmer gossett
palmer gossett Oct 03, 2021 9:17PM ET
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losers
ben sc
ben sc Oct 03, 2021 8:48PM ET
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Fed can't raise rates and fiannce record spending. Runaway inflation will be triggered, last a decade. Exacerbating the wealth gap, anyone who believes any of this spending will help the lower or middle class I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Simon Meszaros
Simon Meszaros Oct 03, 2021 8:48PM ET
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right
sal galeano
sal galeano Oct 03, 2021 8:29PM ET
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conservatives need to fk the right off. your economic policies are trash and are leading to a depression
Forex Harbingers
Forex Harbingers Oct 03, 2021 8:29PM ET
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Noo, ultra spending with no back policy to stagger it will lead to a depression. Just like the ultra spending after the Spanish Flu just as the Federal Reserve came to be and took us off the gold standard. Then we hit the Great Depression. At least understand what you are talking about.
Randall Paul
Randall Paul Oct 03, 2021 8:29PM ET
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James Edwards laughing. the dems just can't help themselves!
Ferdinando Riboni
Ferdinando Riboni Oct 03, 2021 8:07PM ET
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we want more Free stuff white people are Greedy..
ZS Beck
ZS Beck Oct 03, 2021 7:51PM ET
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Should be the other way around. 3.5 T Infrastructure spending and 1T Social.I believe they give enough free money out already. Continuously never-ending unemployment benefits and countless free stimulus checks.The lazy won't work no matter how much money through to them anyway.
ben sc
ben sc Oct 03, 2021 7:51PM ET
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Haven't even spent all of the 2T from Cares Act. Why is any of this necessary?
mat connors
mat connors Oct 03, 2021 7:44PM ET
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Patrick Turner
Patrick Turner Oct 03, 2021 6:38PM ET
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The solution is Bidens resignation
Forex Harbingers
Forex Harbingers Oct 03, 2021 6:38PM ET
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Impeachment
John Bows
John Bows Oct 03, 2021 6:38PM ET
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You could save all of us the trouble of your boomer whining and just die.
palmer gossett
palmer gossett Oct 03, 2021 6:38PM ET
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hang em in the streets
Forex Harbingers
Forex Harbingers Oct 03, 2021 6:38PM ET
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Typical intolerant leftist speech. "Just die" How very 1940's Germany of you.
Thomas DeVito
Thomas DeVito Oct 03, 2021 5:23PM ET
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Oh what are they going to do? Cry
Kochar Bipin
Kochar Bipin Oct 03, 2021 5:13PM ET
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After the Afghanistan disaster, it is now become crucial for President Biden to take an active step to end the current deadock by having Congress pass the infra bill instead of holding it hostage to the social bill.
Co Gonz
Co Gonz Oct 03, 2021 5:13PM ET
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cause you missed econ class
sal galeano
sal galeano Oct 03, 2021 5:13PM ET
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all or none.
Mike Lomash
Mike Lomash Oct 03, 2021 2:51PM ET
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Cant wait to see those DEMS cry Pleasures my soul
Limin Tandiono
Limin Tandiono Oct 03, 2021 2:51PM ET
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Do you really think REPS could have done better? Especially under the chaotic character of Trump? The truth dan fate of America really sadden me, instead of gathering together and fight for a befter futures, parties and leaders are wasting energy fighting each other.
John Laurens
John Laurens Oct 03, 2021 2:51PM ET
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Limin Tandiono   Absolutely.
Co Gonz
Co Gonz Oct 03, 2021 2:51PM ET
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Limin Tandiono trump was great- no world issues but he's chaotic- I wonder what biden is
Benjamin McIntire
Benjamin McIntire Oct 03, 2021 2:08PM ET
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Republicans will do anything to crater the future. We are destroying the planet and they want to leave the next generation holding the bag.
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Mike Lomash
Mike Lomash Oct 03, 2021 2:08PM ET
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We are laughing with our popcorn 🤣🍿🤣🍿🤣🍿🤣🍿
Co Gonz
Co Gonz Oct 03, 2021 2:08PM ET
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yes let's focus on possible issues millions of years away. forget issues now- horrible education, crime, poverty, border crisis, energy crisis, supply shortages- yea we won't last to see climate change
ben sc
ben sc Oct 03, 2021 2:08PM ET
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you're literally advocating to leave the next generation with record debt that they didn't get to vote for. And not a single representative has an idea what is in the spending plan. This is a wealth transfer, you just don't realize that it's not going to who you think it is. China and corporations wrote the taxing plan.
ben sc
ben sc Oct 03, 2021 2:08PM ET
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Benjamin McIntire is trashing the planet with his posts.
palmer gossett
palmer gossett Oct 03, 2021 2:08PM ET
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I love his posts, he gets everyone riled up
Felipe Daniel
Felipe Daniel Oct 03, 2021 1:59PM ET
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Democrats are the party of hypocrisy. They do everything Republicans do in the form of corruption they are just hypocrites about it. 🥱
Roger Miller
Roger Miller Oct 03, 2021 1:59PM ET
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Bang on, and always taking the moral high ground makes them even worse. Too bad their followers are to naive or not informed enough to realize it.
Benjamin McIntire
Benjamin McIntire Oct 03, 2021 1:59PM ET
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Roger Miller never seen more virtue signalling from anyone more than the religious right. Give it a rest.
Green Mango
Green Mango Oct 03, 2021 1:59PM ET
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Roger Miller  Like Benji?  What timing.  It's like as cartoon, are we in a cartoon?
John Laurens
John Laurens Oct 03, 2021 1:59PM ET
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Benjamin McIntire  See now, virtue signaling is a uniquely dem activity. You keep try to label conservatives with traits that specifically describe liberals. For example, right now you are projecting (dem transgressions) onto conservatives which laughingly is another uniquely liberal attribute. Classic stuff here.
Chris Sundo
Chris Sundo Oct 03, 2021 1:18PM ET
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'Republicans have thus far refused to vote to address the crisis..' -- Why is everything in America a 'crisis'? Do Americans have ADD? Do we hear such talk from China / Germany / Britain / ... about a budget deficit refinancing / debt ceiling reapproval crisis?
IceIce Baby
IceIceBaby Oct 03, 2021 1:18PM ET
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US people like shows.
Roger Miller
Roger Miller Oct 03, 2021 1:18PM ET
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The left needs people to be fearful or feel as though their victims to get their vote. Socialism is fueled by envy and jealousy, so they breed it.
mat connors
mat connors Oct 03, 2021 1:18PM ET
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Rohit Nishad
Rohit Nishad Oct 03, 2021 1:12PM ET
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Rohit
Louis Lipps
Louis Lipps Oct 03, 2021 1:04PM ET
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Time for Manchin to end this permanently and just switch parties.  Go where he belongs.  We'll gladly take him.
Benjamin McIntire
Benjamin McIntire Oct 03, 2021 1:04PM ET
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Agree hes just a republican at this point. WV should have opportunity to elect a real Dem if they want to.
Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen Oct 03, 2021 1:04PM ET
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Benjamin McIntire Lol Ben, they already do!
Louis Lipps
Louis Lipps Oct 03, 2021 1:04PM ET
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Benjamin McIntire  If Manchin goes GOP there is a zero point zero chance he ever loses again in that state.  The problem for him is if he stays dem
Kaveh Sun
Kaveh Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:31AM ET
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U r paying already for Biden socialist spending (pay dead beat renters, etc) due to inflation. The more the gov spends, the higher inflation will get. The 3.5T has nothing to do with infrastructures. It is about giving more money to the unions, and green people.
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James Hilliard
James Hilliard Oct 03, 2021 11:31AM ET
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The USA went full commy in the early 1900s with the creation of the Federal Reserve. Troops, swine, and teachers LOVE taxes and laws. They HATE freedom but often don't realize it.
Kaveh Sun
Kaveh Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:31AM ET
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taylor jason u see people wont have a problem if all ( I ) get a cut. It is all about (i). The problem with Biden is dead beat people get the money at working people expense.
Josh Davis
Josh Davis Oct 03, 2021 11:31AM ET
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taylor jason full blown mmt bro. Socialist is putting it mildly. If you worked you didnt need the money.
John Laurens
John Laurens Oct 03, 2021 11:31AM ET
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taylor jason  That was actually an overreaction to China’s covid gift. You’re right, it should have been much lower, but all the blue states were running around with their hair on fire screaming for more money, aaand ventilators. Pft.
mat connors
mat connors Oct 03, 2021 11:31AM ET
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John Laurens exactly. They cried for the money and got it. People need to work not sit on their 🍩🍩🍩’s
Jo Pa
Jo Pa Oct 03, 2021 11:08AM ET
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The annual budget is $4T, so an additional $3.5T would require a near doubling of your taxes to pay for it - at a time when unemployment is at a record high and businesses are struggling!
Josh Hood
Josh Hood Oct 03, 2021 11:08AM ET
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But they said the rich was paying for this not the average joe? ha!!!! but I'm sure the cost of goods will go up even more and trickle down onto the average joe.
Ferdinando Riboni
Ferdinando Riboni Oct 03, 2021 10:48AM ET
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in Mexico we have seen first hand what the left can do ..now we are ruled by Cartels. and if the weakling American wants more evidence look at History..you are declining. your children will be poor and will have less freedom
Benjamin McIntire
Benjamin McIntire Oct 03, 2021 10:48AM ET
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In USA we see first hand what the right can do, with for profit prisons, unbridled environmental destruction, and funding terrorism in other countries. Mexico wouldnt have to deal with cartels if not for failed right wing anti-drug policies that created the black market and their existense.
Josh Davis
Josh Davis Oct 03, 2021 10:48AM ET
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Benjamin McIntire you mean like the rhino republican kay ivey using covid funds for prisons? Bro im sorry to tell you this but dems are just as responsible as republicans you can slice it anyway you want. All politicians are here for one reason and thats pad their pockets. The destruction of the environment isnt the usa we had the lowest carbon emissions in decades recently. We also paid the most gor the paris climate accord because other countries dont care about the climate. One nation changing wont change anything. Sorry ben but leftist wrong again. Shocker. Im not a republican either
Catholic Man
CatholicMan Oct 03, 2021 10:48AM ET
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benny has some unique deluaions
Felipe Daniel
Felipe Daniel Oct 03, 2021 10:48AM ET
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Benjamin McIntire Hillary Clinton invested in prison system for decades
John Laurens
John Laurens Oct 03, 2021 10:48AM ET
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Benjamin McIntire  oh, so laws against cocaine and heroin in the US caused Mexico’s problems? Brilliant!
 
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