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China says discussed with U.S. in Shanghai why earlier trade talks broke down

Published 08/02/2019, 04:55 PM
Updated 08/02/2019, 04:55 PM
© Reuters. Chinese and U.S. flags flutter near The Bund in Shanghai

By Huizhong Wu and Alexandra Alper

BEIJING/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - China on Friday vowed to fight back against U.S. President Donald Trump's abrupt decision to slap 10% tariffs on the remaining $300 billion in Chinese imports, a move that ended a month-long trade truce.

China's new ambassador to the United Nations, Zhang Jun, said Beijing would take "necessary countermeasures" to protect its rights and bluntly described Trump's move as "an irrational, irresponsible act."

"China's position is very clear that if U.S. wishes to talk, then we will talk, if they want to fight, then we will fight," Zhang told reporters in New York, also signalling that trade tensions could hurt cooperation between the countries on dealing with North Korea.

Trump said China had to do a lot in order to turn things around in the trade talks and repeated an earlier threat to substantially increase tariffs if they failed to do so.

"We can't just go and make an even deal with China. We have to go and make a better deal with China," Trump told reporters at the White House.

The U.S. president stunned financial markets on Thursday by saying he plans to levy the additional duties starting Sept. 1, marking a sudden end to a truce in a year-long trade war between the world's two biggest economies that has slowed global growth and disrupted supply chains.

U.S. stocks extended their sell-off Friday on Trump's tariff announcement. Yields on U.S. and German debt plumbed multi-year lows amid a rush for safe-haven assets.

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Earlier on Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said China was holding firm to its position in the 13-month tariff brawl with the United States.

"We won't accept any maximum pressure, intimidation or blackmail," Hua told a news briefing in Beijing.

"On the major issues of principle we won't give an inch," she said, adding that China hoped the United States would "give up its illusions" and return to negotiations based on mutual respect and equality.

Retaliatory measures by China could include tariffs, a ban on the export of rare earths that are used in everything from military equipment to consumer electronics, and penalties against U.S. companies in China, according to analysts.

Trump also threatened to further raise tariffs if Chinese President Xi Jinping fails to move more quickly to strike a trade deal.

The 10% duties, which Trump announced in a series of Twitter posts after his top trade negotiators briefed him on a lack of progress in talks in Shanghai this week, would extend tariffs to nearly all Chinese goods that the United States imports.

CONSUMER IMPACT

White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told reporters on Friday that the impact on consumers from the latest duties would be minimal, despite the fact that the $300 billion target list is nearly all consumer goods, from cellphones and laptop computers to toys and footwear.

"The president's not satisfied with the progress on the trade deal," Kudlow told Fox Business Network.

Apple Inc (NASDAQ:AAPL) fell more than 2% after a similar fall on Thursday on concerns about tariffs on its core products. Bank of America Merrill Lynch (NYSE:BAC) analysts said on Friday that the tariffs could reduce the tech giant's earnings by 50 to 75 cents a share, with the bulk of that from iPhone duties.

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So far, Beijing has refrained from slapping tariffs on U.S. crude oil and big aircraft, after cumulatively imposing additional retaliatory tariffs of up to 25% on about $110 billion of U.S. goods since the trade war broke out last year.

China is also drafting a list of "unreliable entities" - foreign firms that have harmed Chinese interests. U.S. delivery giant FedEx (NYSE:FDX) is under investigation by China.

"China will deliver each retaliation methodically, and deliberately, one by one," ING economist Iris Pang wrote in a note.

"We believe China's strategy in this trade war escalation will be to slow down the pace of negotiation and tit-for-tat retaliation. This could lengthen the process of retaliation until the upcoming U.S. presidential election" in November 2020, Pang said.

The tariffs may also force the U.S. Federal Reserve to again cut interest rates to protect the U.S. economy from trade-policy risks, experts said.

The Fed got another possible signal for a second rate cut next month from U.S. July jobs data on Friday, which showed a slowdown in hiring and fewer hours for manufacturing workers.

But new data also showed the U.S. goods trade deficit dipped 0.3 percent in June to $55.2 billion in a sign that Trump's tariff policies were restricting trade flows. The goods trade deficit with China shrank 0.8% to $30 billion with Chinese imports falling 0.7% and U.S. exports to China unchanged.

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin briefed Trump earlier this week on their first face-to-face meeting with Chinese officials since Trump met Xi at the G20 summit at the end of June and agreed to a ceasefire in the trade war.

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Previous negotiations collapsed in May, when U.S. officials accused China of backing away from earlier commitments.

Latest comments

Trump claimed he made the US avoid another great recession. I think he meant otherwise. He’s the one that is going to bring it to his people.
Trump making boatload playing the market with these issues... while Americans pay for Trump's tariff. Good luck America.
The US was number 1 mfg export leader for over a century. It took Obama about a year to start our collapse. 2010 China takes over. Xie is going to drop them back down the list now. USA will regain the top spot with Japan closing in on China for second. Crazy Asians think we need China. They'll get tired of eating fish heads.
yep American bro, US was #1 in everything from mesozoic era, that what you are taught in your school, sadly not much more.
Spot on
what day and age are u living in? the US HAS not been a manufacturing giant in a long time, high wages, low productivity, people want affordable items like electronics.. if those affordable electronics were made in the USA I would be quadruple the price.
I think we need to increase tariffs a lot more than this, Donny. Thank you.
100%  true, let me open Short Position firstly
still able to short more? seem trum admin did something to stop… that's trade war tariffs monies use to buy back those stocks
 I short oil only, don't trade S&P
It's about time! Great move, Trump. By the way, if tariffs are so much burden on US consumers then why would Chinese president, Xi,  retaliate by doing their tariff on US goods coming from the US?  LoL, retaliate by hurting their own people.
yeah sounds exactly like what Trump is doing.
If China will not buy US oil, switches to Iran Oil,  the whole shale will bankrupt within 3 years. Oil will be about 40$. lol
NFP will show bad numbers, fed has to cut rates
Lol
Or plain politics so he can busy democrats in other things not to impeach him
Why trump is geeting retarted?
too old
Trump is mentally disturbed
CHinese CCP was never a democratically elected government, it was originally started by a bunch of peasants and then grew into a power hungry mafia ring, so you can forget about talking to them about credibility or honor, these words don’t exist in their dictionary
Exactly Paul. Communist regime that rules their people with an iron fist. Lies cheats and steals thier way to a position of power. Taking advantage of Africa right now big time. Read about it if you havent it’s disgusting. Trump knows he is negotiating with liars.
China CCP never had any credibility, look at how they have reneged WTO rules, look at what they had promised to British for the return of Hong Kong, 50 years of “one country two system”? They do not have credibility, so decouple is the best route
check WTO records before comments.
Barked first and then got kicked.
I told you guys ... China is not easy to win. Trump's Team wants to deal like a Cowboy. That ain't going to work. A deal has to be win win for both. President Xi Jing Ping has ready China for a long March. President Xi has all the time he needs to make a deal. Trump's clock is ticking each day. China is not like the other nations where US has the upper hand. China is the key to world success. All countries need to work with China go in ng forward. If not, they risk getting left behind.
We are ready as well. America didnt get to be the worlds super power by being cowardly. We have been through the fire before my friend.
"ascertain the principles and methodology of negotiations" - What the heck does that mean? Do we really need to teach them what negotiation is? We had a deal, but China reneged because that's their tried and true strategy. Let the other side put in tons of hard work and believe a deal is close, and then back out at the last moment and hope the other side accepts a crappy deal because they're tired of the whole juvenile process. Classic Chinese fake confusion about what was real, inferred, agreed upon or just discussed. Reuters writes a piece on US China trade, but only quotes China because they are shills for Beijing, and because US reps probably won't talk to them because they are socialist and America haters. We need full and permanent disengagement from China. Of all the countries on Earth, we are the least compatible with their sense of logic and honor. Any other country would be easier to trust as trading partners, and disengagement would be best for The United States of America.
CCP has no credibility, period
American company are the most fined/penalty imposed by others countries,LOL ...talk about credibilities......HAHAHA..
look at tibet
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