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China maintains tariffs must be reduced for phase one trade deal with U.S.

Published 12/05/2019, 05:15 AM
Updated 12/05/2019, 05:15 AM
China maintains tariffs must be reduced for phase one trade deal with U.S.

BEIJING (Reuters) - Tariffs must be cut if China and the United States are to reach an interim agreement on trade, the Chinese commerce ministry said on Thursday, sticking to its stance that some U.S. tariffs must be rolled back for a phase one deal.

"The Chinese side believes that if the two sides reach a phase one deal, tariffs should be lowered accordingly," ministry spokesman Gao Feng told reporters, adding that both sides were maintaining close communication.

Completion of a phase one deal between the world's two biggest economies had been initially expected in November, ahead of a new round of U.S. tariffs set to kick in on Dec. 15, covering about $156 billion of Chinese imports.

Trade delegations on both sides remained locked in discussions over "core issues of concern," with rising bilateral tensions over non-trade issues such as the protests in Hong Kong and Beijing's treatment of its Uighur Muslim minority clouding prospects for a near-term deal to end a trade war.

China warned on Wednesday that U.S. legislation calling for a tougher response to Beijing's treatment of Uighurs in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang will affect bilateral cooperation.

But "there is no need to panic," as talks did not stop, a Chinese source who advises Beijing on the trade talks told Reuters on Wednesday.

"Both leaders have talked about reaching a deal, and officials are now finishing the work," said the source, who thought it unlikely China would retaliate against U.S. legislation by releasing its so-called "unreliable entities list" aimed at punishing firms deemed harmful to Chinese interests.

When asked if China would release the list this year, Gao said he had no further information to reveal at present.

Beijing may hold back from publishing the list until the trade situation with the United States is at its most tense, a Chinese government source told Reuters in October.

On Wednesday, Trump said trade talks with China were going "very well," sounding more positive than his remarks the previous day that a deal might have to wait until after the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

On Nov. 7, Gao said China and the United States must simultaneously cancel some existing tariffs on each other's goods for both sides to reach a phase one trade deal, but how much tariffs should be canceled could be negotiated.

On a telephone call last week, China's lead trade negotiator Vice Premier Liu He discussed "core issues of concern" with U.S. Trade representative Robert Lighthizer and U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

Washington imposed additional 15% tariffs on about $125 billion worth of Chinese goods on Sept. 1, on top of the additional 25% tariffs levied on an earlier $250 billion list of industrial and consumer goods.

U.S. President Donald Trump and Lighthizer recognize that rolling back tariffs for a pact that fails to tackle core intellectual property and technology transfer issues will not be seen as a good deal for the United States, a person briefed on the matter told Reuters late last month.

Latest comments

Trump should simply raise all tariffs by 2.5% per month until China figures out what they want to do. That’s the win win.
Trump can afford to hold out the fed has got his back.
all fake news there is no deal ever but they issue these news to keep hope to pump up markets
Put the additional tariffs on 15 December. It's time to for China to fight back after the USA is getting involved in Hongkong. This will not end good. China will not accept the way USA treats it.
I think I just figured out Trump main concern about trading with China, he doesn't want the "one belt, one world to Shadow the USA's power over the world...
Tarrifs is only tool US can use to force China into deal, If rolling back, no more deal again (no tool).
any rollback on tariff without structural reform and IP protection will be seen as going back to pre-2018, thus making the whole thing as not a easy trade war. without tariff there will be no concessions at all, stalling isn't a solution either. trump needs to double down like he said earlier no deal = 100% tariff?
If tariff is used up, adding to 100% is a lettle help, 25% or 100% makes lettle difference.
If tariff 100 is up, I will long gold with all my money. Even if on 15th the tariff was set, I will buy gold miner's stock with 20 grand or something.
China just wants to go back to the way it was..
yes. and trump wants it as well but he is having problem doing so without being called a loser.
Index is looking at 2817... Patience...
assuming tariffs will level set at the point of pre-tariffs, then will the index also reset to that point.
If Trump makes concessions to China and makes deals, he could not make a Phase two and three deals, and Trump will lose the presidential election.
If trump bends over the chinese will ride him to eternity. Look at the uighers!
he won't they won't and it just won't yet record highs in Dow and the rhetoric all but in vain
if trump agrees to tariff rollback on phase one, good luck on getting phase 2. lmao.
Just hold hands
I see readers arguing 'cut' and 'reduce'... none of these word mean 'eliminate' or "remove completely"...
no one will trust trump again. if he postpone or roll back the tariffs just for some farm purchase. while farmers are ok and telling america they are willing to fight to the end to stop china bullying american. taking away or roll back tariff effectively mean america loses the trade war and china will give america the finger for phase two (because documents signed in phase one to roll back tariff(s)) and china will restart their zero tariff dump again. the phasing idea dose not work trump next announcement should be america stepping away from this idea.
if trump does it again as you said he will lose the elections in 2020 house or Senate... Things gotta move on it's only phase 1 phase 2 ain't even started! But we do need a rate cut
Market is up, thank you FED for QE4
China is the only honest side
Sources said trump is considering to reinstate all tariffs cancelled and postponed earlier - Bloomberk
Bloomberk is cery reliable source)
Must be nice to be able to pick up a call or put, then send out some lies to make it pay!!
near finished...delay...want to make a deal... pushed to next year...deal going well... must be cut tariff... ALL part of making a deal... It is called a NEGOTIATION and TACTICS... nothing new.
Here it is again, same kind of narrative. I predict that Trump will cancel 15th Dec tariff increase. Trump won't like to see Stock market fall again. Then next year Trump will continue to pump the Stock market by giving more HOPIUM about trade deal: "Trade deal is near", "We have good talk", "Trade deal is getting even closer than you think", "Phase one deal is almost complete", etc.. . This is the diversion made by Trump so investors avoid focusing on economy data and fundamentals (which is getting weaker and weaker), and focusing more on trade hope.
"After" a deal is made.
The cat and mice game never end..
as Randy says... ***** the chinese government'
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