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Georgia, Wisconsin recounts likely will not change Trump election defeat, officials say

Published 11/18/2020, 12:17 AM
Updated 11/18/2020, 08:40 PM
© Reuters. President-elect Biden leaves The Queen after participating in a virtual meeting on national security in Wilmington

By Jason Lange and Doina Chiacu

(Reuters) - President Donald Trump's attempts to cling to power appeared more tenuous than ever on Wednesday as election officials in Georgia said a soon-to-be-completed recount was not likely to change President-elect Joe Biden's victory there.

Georgia is one of several states where Trump's campaign is contesting election returns, so far without success. Election officials there said recount results due to be announced on Thursday were not likely to overturn Biden's 14,000-vote victory in the state. They also said the recount would not provide evidence for Trump's unsupported claims of widespread fraud.

"He's been misinformed on that front," Gabriel Sterling, the state's voting system manager, told reporters.

Election officials in Wisconsin likewise said that a partial recount requested by the Trump campaign would not reverse the Republican incumbent's loss in that state, which he won in 2016.

Trump himself has stayed out of the public eye while venting his anger on Twitter. His election-related lawsuits in Pennsylvania, Nevada and Michigan have met with little courtroom success.

Trump's refusal to concede the Nov. 3 election is blocking the smooth transition to a new administration and complicating Biden's response to the coronavirus pandemic when he takes office on Jan. 20.

Opinion polls show Trump's unfounded claims about the election having been "rigged" have a political benefit, with as many as half of Trump's fellow Republicans believing them, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Arizona's top election official, Democratic Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, said she faced escalating threats of violence and blamed Trump for spreading misinformation to undermine trust in the results.

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The president is holding out hope that a manual recount ordered by Georgia can erase Biden's lead there. The state's top election official said that was unlikely.

"I don't believe at the end of the day it'll change the total results," Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, told CNN.

As of Wednesday morning, Biden's lead over Trump had fallen to 12,781 ballots, down from 14,156 previously, according to Sterling, the state voting system manager. Sterling said he expected the recount to be completed by midnight EST on Wednesday (0500 GMT Thursday) and certified by the state on Friday.

In Wisconsin, the state Elections Commission said it would oversee recounts in two heavily Democratic counties - Milwaukee and Dane, which includes Madison - after the Trump campaign paid $3 million, less than the $7.9 million estimated cost of a statewide recount.

Dane County Clerk Scott McDonell said a recount would start on Friday and finish within days. He said the recount would probably not change the tally significantly. "Certainly nothing anywhere near what would be required for changing the outcomes,” he said.

Biden won Wisconsin by more than 20,000 votes to lead Trump 49.5% to 48.8%.

In the state-by-state Electoral College that determines the election winner, Biden captured 306 votes to Trump's 232. He won the popular vote by more than 5.8 million.

To remain in office, Trump would need to overturn results in at least three large and closely competitive states to reach the threshold of 270 electoral votes. That would be unprecedented.

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FALSE CLAIM ON DETROIT

Trump is also challenging results in Michigan, falsely claiming on Wednesday that the number of votes in Detroit had surpassed the number of residents. The largest city in the state is heavily Democratic.

"In Detroit, there are FAR MORE VOTES THAN PEOPLE. Nothing can be done to cure that giant scam. I win Michigan!" he tweeted.

City records show that 250,138 votes were cast there in the presidential election. That is a little more than a third of the city's population, which according to the U.S. Census Bureau is 670,031.

The state's top election official said all counties, including Detroit's Wayne County, had certified their tallies.

In Pennsylvania, Trump's campaign sought to reintroduce claims to a lawsuit it dropped three days ago that alleged that Republican observers were not allowed to watch ballot counting. Lawyers said they had dropped the claims because of miscommunication.

Earlier in the day, the state Supreme Court said it would hear an appeal in a separate case challenging thousands of mail-in votes in Philadelphia.

Biden held a virtual meeting on Wednesday with frontline healthcare workers in Delaware who complained about a lack of personal protective equipment and COVID-19 tests for themselves.

He warned that the delay in declaring him the election winner could mean that "soon we're going to be behind by weeks or months being able to put together the whole initiative" to distribute coronavirus vaccines when they become available.

The General Services Administration agency, run by a Trump appointee, has yet to formally declare an election winner. Biden's team says that is hindering coordination with the current White House coronavirus task force.

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States face a Dec. 8 deadline to certify election results in time for the official Electoral College vote on Dec. 14.

Congress is scheduled to count the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6, which is normally a formality. But Trump supporters in the Senate and House of Representatives could object to the results in a final, desperate attempt to deprive Biden of 270 electoral votes and turn the final decision over to the House.

Election officials from both parties, across the United States, have said there is no evidence of vote tampering, and a federal review drew the same conclusion.

Latest comments

Where is Thom Miller? Why does he always evade my questions? Hiding will not solve the problem, Thom!
The world is in for a shocker, don't believe the media big tech hype thay biden won. it's common knowledge Trump won, censorship is on its way out quickly inside the U.S 2021. it's all hype just like Russia Russia don't put your money on it you have been warned
"it's common knowledge Trump won"  -- just because the voices in your head keep saying it doesn't mean it's common knowledge for the rest of us......
Time to put eviction notice on white house
If you ask somebody if a candidate "rightfully won" the respondent may have misunderstood the question. It should have been "actually voted in".
The election “irregularities” are to numerous to ignore... no one should object to investigating and verifying the certification of these elections... 70% of americans do mot believe the results of this elecrion... joe biden could not get more votes than obama... thats proposturous
James....from the looks of your post, it would appear you dropped out of school after about the 7th grade, which totally explains your vote for Donny. Counting the days until federal marshalls drag Donny out of the WH kicking and screaming. It will all be on Pay-per-View. The show will be called “Orange is the New Quack: Donny’s Eviction.”
why are you hiding Thom? Why won’t you answer my question?
I think they are going to have to send in the Federal Marshalls in to remove Trump from the White House. He’s not leaving it for Thanksgivings because he is afraid he won’t be able to get back in. He is as crazy as a loon. The scary part is that after 4 years, half of Americans can’t see that he is crazy. How can our country survive with half of Americans out of touch with reality?
8 mil, just pay
would Trump pays $8m to lose again?  like Cappelle said on SNL, as much you don't want to see that, you would love to see that.......
no he will only pay $3m to loose again.
some people get a nasty suprise on 2nd decembre
An English grammar book?
Half of the Republicans have a bad opinion of their electoral system, which is what their skepticism is reduced to. Although it seems that only in the states where Trump loses, does he say little good about his morality and behavior. They do not see that their Boss only seeks their personal benefit, whoever falls and no matter what happens, the greatest evils and insecurities for their country. In an exhibition of evil, arrogance and selfishness, which he already was, but even more, he has stunned and disgusted the whole world. We pray for US.
Trump new back in 2018 the writing was on the wall. This attempt to fog the truth is an on going pattern. Investors need to wake up because once the big money decides that US is not a stable place anymore they will pull their money. Just be ready when they do. I hope that  Biden saves the dollar for the sake of us of all.
He will walk. Man up, please Donald
The whole election was a democrat backed scam laced with a bunch of clever ideas from a bunch of clever lawyers who say the chance to leverage Covid into an excuse for mass mail out ballots.  why did they just not send them to those who requested them?  I wonder after seeing 2 in one Trump votes from walk up in person with voter ID voters and 1 in 4 Trump votes from mail in ballots.  Riiiiiiighttttttt
oh god this is the type of rhetoric we are dealing with in the US day in and day out. SAD!
Everyone knows the election was a huge fraud. Just like the Biden puppet. Installed by Wall Street, MSM , big tech and China.
"Everyone knows the election was a huge fraud"  -- the voices in your head are not  "everyone".....
Coronavirus is solved with trump vaccines. QuarenTenes are economic suicide. Stop propaganda and focus on election fraud!
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