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26.76 -1.33    -4.72%
15:59:00 - Closed. Currency in EUR ( Disclaimer )
Type:  Equity
Market:  Germany
ISIN:  US4581401001 
S/N:  855681
  • Volume: 90,195
  • Bid/Ask: 26.73 / 26.76
  • Day's Range: 26.69 - 27.89
Intel 26.76 -1.33 -4.72%

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In Sight
Insight Feb 05, 2023 12:59PM ET
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General read for all those care (unbiased):https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-planned-us-chip-plant-100004671.html A read on the Brookfield financing deal from Intel from last year (pros/cons). It also states what the consequences are on the 49/51 deal.
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Insight Feb 04, 2023 10:29AM ET
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I am just gonna say that one time now (and my hit rate is pretty high on Intel): Prices above 30 USD for Intel at it*s current state or state in 3-6 months are not really sustainable. Nothing changed since the ER nor will it change by a lot. Stock inventory is still extremely high, and Intels margin forecast did not really look well either. Those 9K of insider shares that Pat just bought at 27$ are a real joke, considering he has been buying already at 44 USD etc and you know where we still at eh. This will drop like the Titanic on the next ER and you wont make money if you dont sell before and rebuy afterwards or short before the ER and cover afterwards. You heard my warning. I wont repeat it, because the higher the stock price gets up to the ER, the higher I can get my short going on shortly before it. This is just a warning out of courtesy
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Simon Meszaros Feb 04, 2023 10:29AM ET
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like if stock inventory is was debt....
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Insight Feb 04, 2023 10:29AM ET
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Stock inventory lying around is bound liquidity that is not returning any investment and just blocking your precious cash flow when you are on negative free cash flow. It also means you have to in fact partially to take up debts. And by the way, Intels long term debts are on an alltime high currently with 38bn (at currently very high interest rates...). And in fact, Fitch just lowered Intels credit rating by one grade.
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Insight Feb 04, 2023 10:29AM ET
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Intel had to take up 5bn of long term debts in H2/2022. They will have to take up another couple of bns this year, probably even more than last year...so they even gonna crack the 40bns of long term debts. Congrats.
Roy Nisani
Roy Nisani 9 hours ago
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you loosing money I see 🤡🤡🤡
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Insight 4 hours ago
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How can I lose money here, when I am not invested, nor short nor long or whatever. I sold all of my shorts very lucrative already after the ER, as I told dozens of times. :>
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SquadW Feb 03, 2023 6:35PM ET
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alot of new intel exclusive laptops coming in 2023 :)
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Insight Feb 03, 2023 6:35PM ET
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First of all you know, consumer demand halfed basically at laptops? Secondly Intels CPUs are good on absolute power, but really bad when it comes to efficiency.... AMDs next gen that is coming out soon DragonRange just widens the gap further. We are talking about 30-40 percent difference on low-middle TDPs.
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Insight Feb 03, 2023 6:35PM ET
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We shall see if they can catch up to AMD on efficiency, because AMDs latest notebook cpus "Dragon Range" are real beast in terms of performance/watt. It's very unlikely Intel can catch up on efficiency, and thats usually what matters on laptops. (last gap was easily about 30-40% difference on efficiency on low -middle TDPs). MS changed the Surface CPUs from AMD to Intel, earlier, and what happened new intel models had lower runtime than the old ones, plus not being faster. And why? Because Intel was slashing prices extremely, and not really making a dime anymore. But yes lets see how that works out in 2023 for Intel. Its still very unlikely that Intel will be able to close that big gap in terms of efficiency.
Michał Mucha
Michał Mucha Feb 03, 2023 11:08AM ET
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How do you think, what price is going to be on Monday?
Roy Nisani
Roy Nisani Feb 03, 2023 11:08AM ET
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simon meso Feb 03, 2023 11:08AM ET
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doesnt matter. if you beleive.
Roy Nisani
Roy Nisani Feb 02, 2023 3:47PM ET
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lol this bear amd fanboys comments that keep dwelling here , so funny
simon meso
simon meso Feb 02, 2023 3:47PM ET
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dont understand whole picture. but every coin has two sides.
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Insight Feb 02, 2023 3:38PM ET
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The weakening dollar will be just another problem for intel eating up margins.
James Martin
James Martin Feb 02, 2023 3:38PM ET
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You are now making a fool of yourself
bruh bruh
bruh Feb 02, 2023 1:55PM ET
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Boomers buying the rip☠️
James Martin
James Martin Feb 02, 2023 5:35AM ET
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Clueless comment underneath
A Z
A Z Feb 01, 2023 3:54PM ET
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RIP intel its time admit your loss to AMD im sorry intel fans
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SquadW Feb 01, 2023 3:54PM ET
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Insight you might be technically correct but stock market doesnt seem to give a sh about it, just like other tech stocks have no revenue and 1000x valuation, Intel's valuation is way too low despite all the problems you described, the stock might as well go up to 50$, shorting it doesnt make any sense
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LL MM Feb 01, 2023 3:54PM ET
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Sure does shorting make sense, but as he said because of bag holders like James it doesnt make sense shorting between earnings reports but only over earnings reports. That is the time of the year where hopium bubble starts to reliably burst into very thin air. Shorting before the ER, calling afterwards. Way to go, not foreve anymore, but for probably 1 or 2 quarters. Thanks Intel! Thanks bagholders. 50 USD before the next report that would be a shorters dream come true!
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Камал Сабыр Feb 01, 2023 3:54PM ET
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You do realize that Intel is not just designer semiconductor producer (like AMD) but also a factory (like TSMS)? Market is so overloaded with no-brainer zoomers with obinhood who just look on brand names and keep buying Tesla, Nvidia etc. I'm afraid these bubbles are going to burst soon...
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Insight Feb 01, 2023 3:54PM ET
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Oh giving lectures and apparently dont understanding why Intels last quarter was so weak eh? You do realize that one of the main reasons for Intels drastically sinking margins, were their fabs right? They are roughly at 60% utilization, running at operating margin loss. Without fabs Intels quarter would have been only half as weak. They need full utilization to have good margins, every % less has drastical consequences. And they even keep on building more fabs, while everyone does the same too. This means in 1-2 years from now on, low utilization rates will be the new normal, thus lower margins will be normal. That way Intel will never come back to 53% or even 60% gross margins.
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Insight Feb 01, 2023 3:54PM ET
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My point is, assets are asets true that, but fabs are slightly different. If you have much more capacity than demand your fawkd, your margins are fawkd. That is the main reason why all chip designers have less problems with their margins, but facing rather mostly only lower sales. For Intel having fabs means not just lower sales but also most importantly having costly fabs that eat up your precious margins. At first Intel tried to just overproduce and oversupply, but at some point they just ran out of free cashflow plus you cant sell more than what the market takes, even at hefty discounts. When its full, its full. So I am gonna repeat, fabs are rather a liability these days than a real help for Intel. It's in fact a very serious problem during this times of crushing demand. Demand will certainly recover to some degree (but its unlikely we will have 2021 levels back again), but every day later will take a hefty toll on Intel.
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Dennis Palcher Feb 01, 2023 3:11PM ET
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So much for the bad earnings
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James Martin Feb 01, 2023 3:11PM ET
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Not driven by earnings but liquidity and momentum
 
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