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Why Is P/E Expansion So Minimal During This Market Rally?

Published 08/03/2015, 04:57 AM

Perhaps the headline question was phrased incorrectly: maybe a better way to ask the question to investors is: “Is there enough P/E expansion with this S&P 500 rally?”

Using the forward 4-quarter estimate published each week by Thomson Reuters, here is the S&P 500 P/E ratio at month- and quarter-end:

  • 7/31/15: 16.8(x)
  • 6/26/15: 17.2(x)
  • 5/29/15: 17.2(x)
  • 4/24/15: 17.2(x)
  • 3/27/15:17.1(x)
  • 2/27/15:17.5(x)
  • 1/30/15:16.3(x)
  • 12/26/14: 17.0(x)
  • 9/26/14: 15.7(x)
  • 6/27/14: 15.9(x)
  • 3/28/14: 15.6()
  • 12/27/13: 15.7(x)
  • 9/27/13: 14.6(x)
  • 6/28/13: 14.2(x)
  • 3/29/13: 14.0(x)
  • 12/28/12:12.8(x)
  • 9/28/12:13.3(x)
  • 6/29/12: 12.7(x)
  • 3/30/12: 13.3(x)
  • 12/30/11: 12.1(x)

Source: internal spreadsheet, with the cited P/Es matching up with this site each week.

Analysis / conclusion: Does a near 50% expansion in the market’s multiple in the last 3.5 years mean that we are close to a top in the bull market? Working from memory in 1987, the S&P 500 peaked near 26(x) forward earnings after the Dow 30 was a somewhat ridiculous 25% year-to-date as of July 31, 1987. In March of 2000, the S&P 500 P/E was thought to be well north of 30(x), and the NASDAQ’s multiple, well, fughetaboutit…

Personally, I think the S&P 500’s multiple is “walking up” the gradual improvement in Financial and Technology sector earnings, which remain the two largest sectors within the S&P 500, at 41% and 37% of earnings weight and market cap respectively.

In Q1 ’15, S&P 500 earnings growth was 11%, ex-Energy, against a 17(x) multiple at the end of June. While I expect Q2 ’15 to be lower than 11%, if we see 7%, 8%, 9% y/y earnings growth for the S&P 500—which is still relatively subdued growth—a 17(x) multiple is still very reasonable.

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An S&P 500 growing core earnings 7%,8%, 9% each quarter, or high single digits, with a market multiple fluctuating around mid-teens, is a market multiple that doesn’t seem risky to me.

Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) is trading back down at the low end of its 6 – 7 month trading range. Given the stock’s importance to this bull market, a break of $119.75 or the 11/29/14 peak, and the stock could drop to $100.

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I don't know much about trading, and don't trade AAPL, but noticed it broke below 119.75. looking forward to seeing what happens in the market.
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