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Is The Market Cheap? Three Things You Need To Know About Valuation, But

Published 05/12/2016, 12:35 AM
Updated 07/09/2023, 06:31 AM

There is a general consensus that valuation indicators are not very useful for market timing. Despite this, the financial media and the blogosphere feature an avalanche of articles warning that the market is seriously overvalued. Your retirement account might drop 50% at any moment. There are countless worries in the world.

Many investors have been “scared witless” (TM OldProf) by this, missing out on a great opportunity. Is it now too late? What is the current potential for market gains?

Here are three things you do not know about valuation:

  1. The oft quoted indicators are not currently endorsed by their developers, only by those of the bearish persuasion.
    1. Warren Buffett described his “favorite valuation indicator,” the stock market cap to GDP ratio, in 2001. The current high readings are gleefully cited by many. Warren Buffett himself, while not specifically repudiating the indicator, has often noted that it does not work when interest rates are so low. He has repeatedly said that investors should prefer stocks to bonds in the current market climate. Charlie Munger has said the same thing. There have been many stories about this, but they are mostly ignored.
    2. Prof. Shiller’s CAPE ratio shows an overvalued market and is frequently cited. No one ever mentions that Prof. Shiller himself is more than fully invested in stocks for someone of his age. He cut exposure a bit last fall, but does not recommend the “all-in, all-out” approach of many who quote him. Whenever he is asked in an interview he explains that young people should certainly own and hold stocks. He never advocates using CAPE for market timing. He has endorsed CAPE for sector selection. Barclay’s seems to have pulled the page with the Shiller endorsement, although the CAPE Fund is still trading. My article explains the methodology.
    3. Tobin’s Q was invented in the 50’s by a great economist. It emphasized the replacement cost of major companies. If he were alive today, this brilliant man would be revising his methods to explain modern technology companies, as well as stocks like Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN), Google (NASDAQ:GOOGL), and Facebook (NASDAQ:FB). It is not fair to apply methods designed for a world with more manufacturing to one so different. No one uses this method for individual stock analysis. Only a few people profit from writing about this aged and obsolete indicator.
  2. There are many experts whose methods show that stocks are attractive. Whenever these people – Laszlo Birinyi, Brian Wesbury, Jeremy Siegel, Jim Cramer, and me, to mention a few – suggest that stocks are undervalued, someone plays the “perma-bull” card. I don’t know for sure about the others, but I am perfectly willing to shift positions as the evidence changes. No one should be embarrassed about being right. I find the name-calling unhelpful for both bullish and bearish viewpoints.
  3. There is a bias in valuation coverage. Because the bearish concept has such a grip, and predicts huge declines like 50% or so in stocks, it grabs headlines and page views. If you do not believe me, do a little personal poll or else a Google search on stock market valuation. Look at the headlines. Those who are comfortable with current stock values expect 10% gains or so. For the average investor, the risk-reward seems dangerous. The key is that the big declines are low probability, while the expected gains are pretty normal.
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Conclusion

The bearish valuation theme has persisted for many years. It is usually invoked to claim that all indicators show an over-valued market. No other choices or ideas allowed! This is not a balanced analysis.

The consensus that valuation methods are not good for timing came years too late. It was only after the various bearish valuation indicators did not signal a buy in 2009. How many years will it take before investors catch up? Forget about changes in pundit opinion. They are all “locked in.”

The single greatest reason for the valuation error is the level of inflation and interest rates. And not the Fed-controlled rates, but the longer end that reflects market forces. Mr. Buffett, as usual, nailed it in his commentary, but few paid any attention. In an interview last August, he stated:

Buffett reiterated that he was a long-term investor, saying he expected prices to be “a lot higher” 10 years or 20 years from now.

He likened owning stocks to owning a home, saying that if homeowners expected prices to fall 5%, they wouldn’t sell their homes in hopes to buy it back for 5% less. They are locked in for the long haul.

He also stated, as he has on many other occasions:

What you can say now — [it’s] not very helpful – but the market against normal interest rates is on the high side of valuation. Not dangerously high, but on the high side of valuation. On the other hand, if these interest rates were to continue for 10 years, stocks would be extremely cheap now. The one thing you can say is that stocks are cheaper than bonds, very definitely. We’ve seen low interest rates now for six years or so, rates that we really wouldn’t have thought possible, particularly in Europe where they’ve gone negative. And that’s continued a long time, and of course we saw them continue for decades in Japan.

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Do you think you should pay attention to What Mr. Buffett said fifteen years ago, or what he says now? Can’t he interpret his own indicator? Can you or I do better?

The same argument applies to Prof. Shiller, who is poorly served by the uber-bearish applications of his work.

My conclusion? Earnings prospects are important and remain my own principal focus for stock valuation. Stocks remain moderately attractive, despite the scary stories. Specific names are quite cheap, with low PEG ratios and great prospects. Develop a good shopping list!

Latest comments

This article seems to be ignoring lots of indicators that are flashing a prolonged slump may be around the corner. This article seems opposite of perma-bears ie. Perma-bulls. The markets are distorted big time, everybody knows it. Many are sitting on huge profits thanks to Mr Bernanke! We're not management of company that we'll be there even when it goes southwards . We're investors we'll look for returns and if there is risk of not much further gains but of large downsides then there is no point in being invested and losing already multtiplied returns.
Vinoda -- I am not "ignoring" negative indicators. I merely have pointed out that many are not using them in the way intended by the developers. Also there is another side.. . Which indicators do you follow and when is the last time you got a buy signal? :). . Thanks for reading and commenting.. . Jeff
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